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   Aaron on December 4, 2017 at 8:44 pm

   I agree the second half of the crossover was better than the first, but overall the whole thing was good I thought; it was admittedly tough to watch in parts because of the WWII elements but as a whole it was good and will be a challenge to top next time!

   I agree with John it was a really organic gathering of the characters and organic feeling plots are always pluses to me; Kara would totally eat the rest of that food. I’m going to assume with Barry as the groom and Kara and Mick as guests they’re wedding food was more appetizer than meal because they alone would shut places down so no way one business could provide enough food for a meal. Ha.

   I hope the Legion is just here for the season with guest spots in later seasons because I don’t want to watch “Justice League” essentially, I want to see “Supergirl” with the group we have; as stated in this podcast they have enough trouble figuring out what to do with some characters they have (yes I mean James) so let’s not add to the roster yet…certainly not on that scale.

   I thought it was cute when Barry commented on how hot Oliver looked in his tux. I’m actually a bit surprised Barry didn’t talk to Alex more because he was all excited to meet her last time. Speaking of Alex, if they do another crossover with the Legends can we please have some Alex-Mick moments because those would be hilarious I think!

   The thunder clap was awesome!!!

   I honestly don’t even remember Alex in the spa; I remember Kara’s nail bit and Felicity talking about Oliver but I don’t remember Alex’s part. Excuse for a rewatch, ha!

   I TOTALLY agree John, Kara doubting herself feels so inorganic and that plot just continues to annoy me; I’m all for her being bummed she broke up and worrying she killed Mon but saying she can never love…it’s just not been handled well in my opinion. Also if a villain really wants to set Kara off they’d go after Alex because the sisters are each other’s heart. Sadly I don’t think they’ll let Kara move on just yet because drama but I’m looking forward to her doing so enough to get off this anti-human kick she’s on because newsflash Kara it was your alien side not your human one that caused the problems in this plot.

   Sara needs to follow her gut and go back to Nyssa! I could do a paper on why Nyssa on LEGENDS would be the bomb; it’s such a disservice they haven’t had her own yet and it’s even more hurtful when they try to claim it’s due to scheduling yet oddly Katrina always has time for an “Arrow” episode in their season. It’s like LEGENDS has an aversion to Nyssa, they couldn’t even say her name in their part of the crossover we got the nod to her during the “Flash” hour! I don’t know if they’re worried about Nyssara taking over because fans want to know about them but if they’re worried over a romance why do they have them on their show with other pairings? It’s just incredibly frustrating how they’ve dealt with her; again start by saying her name because it’s not like she could never be mentioned in a conversation…ideally we want Katrina on at this point Id start with Sara saying her name more. I know the group can’t ask about their futures so you could argue it’s because Nyssa’s a big part of Sara’s they don’t want to start that plot but isn’t Nate from the future some too so why can’t Sara ask him what he knows on her? I’m just so frustrated with LEGENDS on this topic and it’s part of why I feel out on it during S1.

   I never saw “Glee” beyond one episode but I have heard Melissa sing “Chasing Pavement” and it’s GREAT!!!

   I don’t watch LEGENDS but even I bawled at Stein’s death; I’m glad they had that in the LEGENDS hour so it’s like he went out on his own show as it should be, also him getting shot in the final moments of the FLASH hour really added to the tension of that scene.

   Ha to John going “Okay” as if he expects them to say screw it just Jax is Firestorm now because we need something for him to do beyond fix the ship each week.

   Melissa killed it as Overgirl; I was going to rank her number 1 on the evil list but then evil Quentin showed up with his speech to Sara and took the spot, but evil Kara would be second with evil Flash third. Oliver-X was just more broody Oliver to me so I didn’t really find him as scary as the others.

   General Winn was good although it felt like Jeremy was playing an entirely different character who was also named Winn because I didn’t see any of our Winn in him beyond looks; even with evil Kara you had the hint of “I’m not human” to tie them kind of together even if their reasons for saying it were different but Winn versus General Winn was like two different characters all together. It was a good part to let Jeremy showcase his skills though.

   I’m all for Alex being Ruby’s J’onn but I don’t want to see the adoption legally yet as I don’t feel the show is ready for full time kids. I’m still not sure about William on “Arrow” and they’re in S6 of their series. If Sam becomes an anti-hero, PLEASE – I don’t want to lose her, and she and Alex get together (note it must be stated just the Reign side wanted to kill Kara as Alex will not date anyone who tried to actively kill her sister – think a Caitlin-Frost situation) then okay adopt Ruby but for now I think it would be neat to see her be Ruby’s J’onn basically.

   I’ll miss Emilee but John I look forward to seeing what you do as a host!

   Again I’m all for us getting another awesome villain on this show as it’s been awhile since we’ve had one, Psi was good but we haven’t had a real challenge for Livewire yet (miss you Leslie, come back again!), but I really liked Sam so I’d love if they could somehow make her an anti-hero at the end as we don’t really have one of those officially either. Mon would have been a great anti-hero but sadly they tried to shove him in the good guy strictly mold and they don’t address Alex’s and J’onn’s questionable actions side so this could be a great opportunity to bring in that element to the series. No Lena doesn’t count, there’s no making Lena bad even if she is allowed to do questionable things – keep Lena good she’s not a female Lex!

   I’m not crazy about James body guarding Lena because it reads like she’s a damsel and she’s not really that. I could take James/Lena if they had shown us more on why James’s attitude towards her changed because right now it feels like he just finds her hot and he’s got nothing better to do so let’s put them together. Here’s a question: do you think it would be better to just have James leave for a bit rather than throwing him at every plot to see which he sticks with, he could be a guest who returns at times, or are you okay with him just kind of there just to say he’s still there because as John said it’s a bummer to watch a once good character just ride the bench basically. Again what is so wrong with having him just run CatCo? To me that’s been the one good plot for him post S1; I’d especially love to see him return to the questioning of the DEO and their handling of things and finally address the tension there although sadly now that would feel hypocritical given he did the same stuff as Guardian. I’m just not sure how they’re going to get back to the lovable S1 Jimmy.

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     Karen Lindsay on December 5, 2017 at 9:35 am

     I’d be THRILLED to see James relegated to CatCo. I hate to say that, but it’s the truth. If Lena gets a bigger part and he gets backgrounded, so be it. And bodyguard? HA! HA I say!

     Jeremy and Melissa BROUGHT IT in these episodes. Their doppelgangers were SO different, and stretching to play them authentically showed range and talent.

     I actually remarked on The Fandom Zone (since we covered all four episodes) that they were better at “The JL Trinity” than the Justice League movie. Ollie = Batman, Supergirl = Superman, Barry = WW. (going by powers) Especially in the scene where they work together to shore up the hi-rise.

     I loved the Alex/Sara thing, as I’ve said, but I’m actually more interested in developing both of those characters on their respective shows WITHOUT a partner before they move on. I’d love to see Nyssa again, so that’s an intriguing thought. I still have issues with all the Batman elements in the CW-verse shows, but that’s just me.

     As far as that goes, I could use less wallowing altogether, Kara included. I love Karamel (as you know), but at this point, she should get strong and get over. Be WOMAN!

     Thanks for your feedback! <3

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   Aaron on December 5, 2017 at 6:21 pm

   #NotAllHeroesWearCapes; there’s definitely nothing wrong with James being the sub Cat. It’s like the more relevant they try to make James with these inorganic plots just to give him something to do the more distant fans get with him. Just this week with Lena/James, it’s more like they’re trying to bring him along with her versus bringing them along together; that while plot was mainly the girls telling Lena to go for it with him but we never saw Winn and James talking about Lena and how James was wrong about her thus explaining his sudden shift in like for her because he was head anti-Lena cheerleader last season.

   I will say though if the shield is all we ever see of Guardian again I’ll be happy; ideally I’d love for that to completely go away as it didn’t help his likability, but I’d take that over a Guardian episode to try and make use like that plot when I don’t know if it worked for anyone the way it was handled.

   James feels like he’s being written to make the plot work instead of the plot feeling like it’s connected to him.

   I’m conflicted at times judging “Justice League” because the theatrical release wasn’t the version the director wanted released but at the same time what they did release wasn’t great; I get he was jacked up on the cube but Diana would not go down that easy against Clark as he might have strength in that moment but she’s got skills to combat that this that fight would have been a lot closer. Where were Patty Jenkins Amazon suits? Diana felt like a babysitter at times, Barry had cute moments but wasn’t as funny to me as they might have hoped, Jason did a good Aquaman but he still felt generic next to all the other guys; Cyborg might have been the best part to the film but I’m left wondering what the director version would have looked like so it’s a weird place talking about the movie.

   “but I’m actually more interested in developing both of those characters on their respective shows WITHOUT a partner before they move on.” – that’s fair! They just left such a mystery with Nyssara to me I need some answers because last I saw them Nyssa definitely loves Sara and Sara said she loves her yet she’s sleeping with every person in history she meets so it’s again a case of “say one thing do another” in plot handling. I certainly wouldn’t want romance to be the only plot going with Nyssa if she was on LEGENDS but I just feel that series is missing such an opportunity to expand on that pairing and give the fans some fun both with it and Nyssa as a solo character. What are your issues with the Batman links?

   Yeah as you know I don’t buy Kara/Mon because of how they handled the plot in S2, but if we say she loved him back for the debate sake then we have to look at things and you can say they were together for like 5 months half of which they spent fighting because he wasn’t respecting her thoughts thus I don’t get this whole “love of my life” bit; she said that about James basically in S1 and look how that turned out so I just feel the plot is brining Kara down the longer it goes…Alex who was getting married to Maggie hasn’t been this broody! I do like how they’re having Mon be mature for the most part with this and I’m fine with he and Kara talking things out but I’d love to see her ask if he’s happy for him to say yes and for her to start moving on; I fully understand it sucks seeing the person you like happy with someone else, but girl unless you break up his marriage he’s not coming back so you’re just hurting yourself for nothing at this point. I really hope they don’t do jealous Mon if Brainiac 5 starts flirting with Kara because I’m enjoying mature him and it would feel like such a step back if he tried to cause problems out of jealousy when he’s supposedly happily married. Also again her faulting her human side never made logical sense to me so while the maturity has thankfully improved with them I still can’t get excited with Kara-Mon scenes and look forward to when she’s around others.

   Thanks for keeping the podcast going; I’m thrilled to hear you and John will be doing a catch up for next week as I missed hearing your thoughts on “Midvale” and “Wake Up”! Thanks for the comment back as well!

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