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The Supergirl season may be over, but the fun here on Maid of Steel continues.Β This week we have the super opportunity to sit down with other Supergirl podcast hosts and discuss our adventures. What were the highs and lows of the season? How will we rank this season among all the others?Β Listen as we discuss our favorite cast of characters. Then we will begin to talk about what is next now that our beloved show has ended. Thank you to Rebecca and Morgan at Supergirl Radio for inviting us to the table. Green Butterfly is very excited to learn about the others’ experiences as we all watched the same story unfold. The script was the same but the way it is interpreted is unique. Are there plans to move ahead on our respective podcasts to keep this conversation going with YOU our treasured listeners? You will have to press play to find out!Β This is your eye in the sky Green Butterfly wishing you a super week.
Some blog post comments…
“The Supergirl season may be over” – I think you mean series. π
“What were the highs and lows of the season?” – there were highs to the season? Yeah okay the writers had to be high to think it was good or a “homage” as they tried to say it was going to be and we definitely should have been high as the audience having to sit through it but highs as in good elements to it…I can’t think of one. Okay Nia is consistent but that’s not anything new; I don’t get highs on screens but the lows – PLENTY of those sadly!
“How will we rank this season among all the others?” – I put season six at the bottom and season five basically did nothing so it was a low bar to start them off; season six is basically worse than nothing.
On to the podcast…
No K-Vox?! *presses SKIP button* Just kidding. π
Oh pre hopes! I was hoping it would be better than the dull fest that was season five and okay they did more but it was so out of character it was just hot garbage; and of course they’d say it’s not full our characters because Crisis merged things but you know what Crisis was hot garbage too which did nothing to help any series that was a part of that mess so yeah it failed largely all around for me! I wanted it to not be the last season of the series but it was. I wanted them to get back to Kara Danvers but it was just more female Superman…again it was just an across the board failure of a season and the sad part was all it had to do was be a little better than season five and it wasn’t and again season five has nothing happening when you look back is the frustrating part! Tell me something important that happened in season five…go ahead, I’ll wait..also I will not accept Leviathan as an answer unless you are okay with me laughing in your face because making them ancient gods just did not fit this show or the setting of the lore established so far so I can’t take it seriously; Leviathan is one step below reporter Kara because let’s be honest that will always be the most funny thing ever on this series. π
I was DEFINITELY surprised that they not only got Callista back but that it was kept a secret from the fans until the episode aired, it’s rare to see that!
“Did anything surprise you about season six?” – how out of character everyone was; like I knew some people they’d screw with the more the season went especially because they told us Kelly was basically being rewrote to don the Guardian suit even though she had said before that’s a dumb way to help, but just the level of how unenjoyable it was to watch the characters surprised me. Seriously only Nia was worth watching each week because she was the only one magically still in character! Lena as a witch is just left field as far as you can go, Kelly as Guardian is out of character straight up to her, J’onn did a grand total of nothing, Brainy flipped flopped so much you’d think his favorite food was pancakes instead of green things, and Alex…my beloved Alex they just reconned her greatest message ever by having her in a suit for the final go. It’s one thing to do it a one off episode in the season so Alex gets a little out of her system but seeing her in a suit each week just made me so sad and to have Chyler do promos using #NotAllHeroesWearCapes while in the suit felt insulting and annoyed me to no end. They called season six an homage but again it was a homicide! π
Dang Justina you got me, okay Nxyly, yeah she counts as a high you could argue…season six is still the worst season though in my book. Ha
UGH Kenny…he meant nothing long run and his being alive changed so much; like honestly if you look at that version of Kara and Alex I have to wonder how do they get to this same place as our version who bonded over his death? I can see them maybe working together still but I don’t buy they’d have the same relationship. They just did it to show Crisis effected us too I guess but didn’t care enough to really show consequences of that or didn’t want to change too much thinking we’d just accept it because we didn’t want things to change either but they’d have to by that logic. Kenny being alive should have mattered and at the VERY LEAST he should have been in the wedding she’s to suggest he and Kara got together to pay that off but his return doesn’t. ?
Ugh Jor, another thing that changes a lot but they just handwave away; yes Kara still has that trauma of seeing her planet explode and thinking everyone she cared for was dead but every other season she got her family back and so it kind of really down plays the effect of Krypton exploding when you look at her. Clark really did lose his family and heritage but Kara just had a temporary break in the grand scheme. It’s questionable enough Alura survived the blast but both them, I don’t think so. Again it’s a case of they thought it was a cool idea main sure but it doesn’t fit the logic of the world they had presented and the final season didn’t have the time to expand on that to make it work.
“What do you think was the biggest disappointment of season six?” – season six. It’s all bad honestly. If I had to answer more specifically though I’d say the out of characterization of everyone and how they said homage so much and it was more a spit in the face to what had come before; I think had they not said homage I might not have judged some things so hard in that context because I was waiting to see said homage but they did so when they failed I had to say something. Again I hate Alex in a super suit because she never needed it. Kelly as Guardian is a hard no, Lena as a witch makes me laugh…there’s nothing I can take seriously or enjoy in this season and that’s such a disappointment as a fan, the final season and you can’t like anything. π
“What did you enjoy about season six?” – Nxy and Nia and that’s honestly it.
I fully believe Kara coming out as Supergirl was dumb because unless she’s alone it just puts a target on everyone’s back and true they can sometimes take care of themselves but you know the kidnapping rate of those characters is going up and also they will bound her to death to move heavy items for her and blame her for when things go bad in the city whether she’s involved or not so it just creates stress and conflict that Kara can’t take and doesn’t need so that was bad choice given she’s not the lone icon at the end she could have been in a different take on the series. Her being romantically alone was also meh because if Kenny was dead I could have supported it but him being alive needs to be the pay off with her romantically to warrant bringing him back. Beyond that she really doesn’t change to say she’s evolved enough to even vote on linking a change; Kara devolved from season one being her own person to being female Clark as the series went and I hate that personally but her evolving as the series went from hiding who she was to being comfortable with who she is…again I can’t even vote because for the most part she stayed static I feel. She didn’t die so there’s that, but I will always maintain they could have done better with her; at the very least they shouldn’t have had her announce to the world who she is because again that’s just asking for trouble! I agree John it’s super impractical long run.
“Superman & Lois” doesn’t recognize “Supergirl” which is super insulting given they spun off from us and how much they wrote Kara like him post season one so yeah I doubt anything here effects them even though it totally should because people know Kara and Clark Kent are related given how much she talks about it. ??? The only saving grace is maybe Kara doesn’t have a lot of friends and the ones she does already knows who he is, but yeah still you’d think there’d be repercussions for him but they won’t be…they’ll just say Kara can’t be around him because of that reveal to keep the family safe and thusly is more why they don’t talk about Supergirl on the series she died to create basically. ?
“This isn’t SUPERGIRL and hasn’t been for a long time” – I’d say since season three for sure John; like I’d hardcore debate SUPERGIRL sadly only really got one season because after that they started writing her as Clark Kent basically, but post season three for sure it was a toss up between it being a Superman testing plot ground and the Lex Luthor series but it wasn’t “Supergirl” that we were excited to see more of for sure – in my opinion at least.
If they had had Lena and Kara have their own relationship instead of doing a copy and paste of Clark and Lex then maybe I could get SuperCorp more but because they went generic all I can think is even if Kara was queer Lena could do better than her so I never got into SuperCorp myself. I could have seen AgentCorp in season two for some fun twist – people think Maggie will hook up with Alex but really it’s Lena in the end. Ha. That definitely would have complicated my AgentArias OTP in season three, but still. Ha. I could never see them revealing Kara as queer though so SuperCorp was always going to be a crack ship if you will; I do think there needs to be a queer lead already to these series and no I don’t count Sara Lance in this because while she is a lead Legends is not called The White Canary show so she’s not a title lead like “Stargirl” if they have Courtney be bisexual and oh my gosh does she at the least need to be bisexual – we all see that chemistry with Yolanda right?! Nora West-Allen doesn’t have her own show yet so we’re still waiting on that queer title character CW Arrowverse! They could do it with an Alex spin off series focusing on DEO adventures I’m just saying but they seem too dumb to lock up Chyler like that. π
3 rewrites?! And this is where they went? It makes it all the more disappointing depending on how good or bad the other drafts were! I still feel like you can only blame COVID so much because even with COVID they had a year for that plus writing during the season so for this to be what we got…are you seriously telling me there were no other options than this? Okay you can only have so many actors in a scene at a time but that doesn’t change the quality of the scene with this cast – these are good writers who can easily go to a two person scene and make it amazing, have they never seen Chyler or Katie, let them do their jobs with quality material! I will give you COVID effected things but I don’t think it should be allowed to be the scapegoat for the season being horrible like it is as at a point some of it is on the writers; COVID didn’t tell them to involve Lex for no reason, seriously he was not needed in this year. COVID didn’t tell them to make Kelly Guardian. COVID didn’t say to spit on everything good about the characters we love…they were limited to who they could use fine but again not how they used them so I personally still fault the writers for the season being bad more than I do COVID or Melissa being pregnant.
Again Kelly never should have been Guardian period because it went against everything she said in season four and there was nothing in season six that really warranted or explained her change of mind so that plot was always going to be crap in my mind if you enjoy continuity. If they would have just let Kelly be therapist Kelly it would have fit with the limited characters in scenes and given exploration to maybe explain some of the choices people were making but no we can’t have organic plots anymore! *sigh*
I 100% agree with whoever said (sorry some of the names I’m not use to often got mixed up and I don’t want to miscredit anyone) they don’t care about excuses because they still could have put out quality seasons or anything better than this. Again COVID limits who you can have in a scene not what the scene is about! People mentioned multiple times the throwing the Hope totem in the sun moment – that has one person in the scene and it’s a horrible scene because of the what happening not who all is involved! No passes for the bad writing; I’ll give them some slack on not having as many cast in a scene as I would like because of COVID but I’m not giving them a pass on the rest of the season elements. “…do things get so lost Lena becomes a witch?” – lol!
I don’t know if I am like anyone on the show…I would be Alex if I was on the show I feel because who wouldn’t want to be awesome, ha, but just thinking of the characters I don’t know if I’m anyone exactly. Brainy has the “being weird” element because he’s kind of a social standout compared to others – he wants to be part of the group but has an awkward to the normal way of getting there. Maggie has issues with wanting to originally please her family on things. Sam has wanting to be a hero but having these anger issues which can get the better of you if you will with Reign, ha; so yeah I’d go I’m a mix not one person if I had to answer that question. If we’re just talking favorite characters from the show 100% Alex is my favorite. π Also on the list, Sam of course and Leslie aka Livewire; Nia would be in the top 5 easily also.
Crisis never should have been in play in our last season because we don’t have time for changes like that number one and two Crisis never mattered to us to begin with so why do we have to deal with it now? The only two impacted honestly by it were “Arrow” because they wanted to send Stephen out in some grand way even though Oliver’s death there makes no sense and was lame and “Flash” because Barry was going to die but of course he’s fine so it has no effect there beyond him whining how he was meant to die instead, no one else was involved and yet it screwed up one of the core elements of our series for no pay off. ?
Mon was toxic to Kara, good riddance to that relationship!
If we could write stories for the show I’m 100% writing Alex realizing that the suit is not what makes her a hero and I’m shipping her back to the DEO! I may not get a DEO building due to budget but she’s getting back in that polo! Ha. It was such a disservice to her to suit her up so that’s something I would change; also I would bring back Sam to help fight because Sam still has powers as we all know. If I could rewrite something beyond this one season I would totally rewrite from the start of season two on through the series Kara Danvers and I would keep her Kara not turn her into a female Clark because we’ve seen his story a million times before and this was a chance to do something different and they wasted it so I’d do more with season one Kara and what her choices could bring to her city.
Snap Judgment Answers
Dang it number one, I don’t really want Kelly unless it’s therapist Kelly but I love Alex too much to say anything besides her so I go with the Alex spin-off. Ideally as you all know my Alex spin-off is her leading the DEO being the anti-hero she is and her love interest is Sam Arias. Kelly could still be on but she would not be last named Olsen and she would certainly be a therapist because the characters can us it; guest staring Lena because they need tech as the agents are only mostly human, you know there’s some alien staff members there but none as powerful as Kara who we don’t see because she’s on missions or shockingly doing her day job but will be referenced because it’s still in continuity with our original series. π
Q2: 100% give me the Reign a coma because it means Sam is back!!! How fast can I sign this into reality? We can rewrite the series starting at season three, yes please!
Q3: Reign! Sorry not a choice so definitely Manchester – he didn’t get the time he deserved I feel.
Q4: End it with season one. I mean technically you can say “Supergirl” was just the one season because again if you ask me they made her Kara Kent post season one so it’s not really “Supergirl” like we wanted to see continue; season three has some good stuff and season two has moments but on the whole it’s not the same as that first season where she felt unique so if I have to pick I’m picking season one. There was so much hope going in and you could always tout it as “Imagine what could have been!” instead of “Look what you did!”. I would for sure miss Sam but in the grand scheme season one is the better way to end; season five and six are hot garbage that just blows up the characters we love and season four is meh at best so losing them isn’t a tragic loss, if it was just season six that sucked maybe I take that bullet just to get the rest but given we really only have a season to two season really worth rewatching hard I’ll just end things at season one when the passion was still high because it’s so tragic to start out as high as we did and then end as low as we did.
Q5: Give me more young Danvers sisters please and thank you!
A fun roundtable! π