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The mission this week is to collect some of Kara’s DNA to help locate her in the fractured phantom zone and bring her home. Sure it would be easier to head over to her apartment and grab a hair brush but this will be far more fun. Brainy and Nia head to prom night 2009 in Midvale. There, according to Alex, Kara saved the Earth from a meteor impact. The rock was composed partly of kryptonite causing Kara to bleed on the baseball field. The well calculated plan that Brainy devised goes sideways when a piece of the legion ship breaks. The result is Brainy and Nia crash a day early right in front of the people they hoped to avoid.
Kara is immediately on board to help these stranded aliens as Alex remains skeptical. Brainy and Nia are spit up. Nia will stay with the girls and Brainy will stay with Kara’s boyfriend Kenny. I know what you are thinking. Kenny died when Alex was in high school. However in the post crisis world Kenny is alive and helping Kara save the citizens and pets of Midvale. Their activities cause the town to make headlines.
It is those headlines that drive young C. J. Grant into town to uncover the story. What or who is making Midvale so lucky? She is determined to get the story and return to Metropolis with a scoop that will overshadow Lois Lane.
An overeager reporter is not the only thing our team must overcome. They are also fighting stress, doubt and antiquated technology. There is also another alien by the name of Naxim Torkis in town. He is looking to add to his cosmic collection and the Man of Steel proved too hard to catch. Will he capture Kara while she is young and inexperienced causing irreparable damage to the timeline? Will he get a Naltorean and Caluan as a bonus? With Brainy and Nia’s plan off course could their actions have consequences for the present? Will the simple fact of Kenny being alive alter Kara’s course and therefore her journey to become a Superhero? Green Butterfly and Silver Vox want all your thoughts and theories as we wait together for the exciting conclusion of what happened on Prom Night! Have a super week!
Will Brainy and Nia’s adventure to the past effect the current timeline?
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Action Comics (2011-2016) #6
Written by Sholly Fisch dated February 1, 2012 The Superman of the present day must team up with suspiciously different versions of the Legion of Super-Heroes to save the jeans-wearing Superman of five years ago! Plus, a backup tale by Sholly Fisch and ChrisCross that spins directly out of the lead story. $2.99 on Comixology!
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Season 6 – Episode 6: “Prom Again” CHYLER LEIGH MAKES HER DIRECTORIAL DEBUT – Part two of the flashback episodes pick up where things left off – Young Kara (guest star Izabela Vidovic) experiences kryptonite for the first time, Nia (Nicole Maines) and Brainy (Jesse Rath) are trapped by invading aliens, and a young Cat Grant (guest star Eliza Helm) may be the reason Supergirl never gets out of the Phantom Zone. Chyler Leigh directed the episode written by Rob Wright & Jess Kardos (#606). Original airdate 5/4/2021. Get your feedback in to us by May 6 at 7pm EDT to be included in the podcast. Thanks!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a_F0FtXzSg
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“Sure it would be easier to head over to her apartment and grab a hair brush but this will be far more fun.” – it wasn’t. Ha. Seriously we could have watched Alex sit in traffic for 30 actual minutes and the episode would have been more in line with continuity and probably as funny as this episode was; the other 15 minutes is grabbing the brush and securing the DNA for transport while allowing a moment of Alex saying she’ll get her back which again would be better than this episode. As my review showed I have so many problems with what went down this week and with what I’m sure is to come. 🙁
“Will Brainy and Nia’s adventure to the past effect the current timeline?” – why not, they already have bullcrap Crisis effecting it; they’ll probably think it’s a neat tie in also even though the effect will be something that’s overall inconsequential.
“Young Kara (guest star Izabela Vidovic) experiences kryptonite for the first time” – because we wouldn’t want the emotional impact of her sister shooting her with it, that’s just too much organic drama. *eye roll* They forget what made “Supergirl” better than the other shows was it had character depth and heart and wasn’t just another comic book series. They’re trying to comic book everything if you will and it’s boring. 🙁
“and a young Cat Grant (guest star Eliza Helm) may be the reason Supergirl never gets out of the Phantom Zone.” – ?♀️.
Chyler’s debut of directing is the only thing to be excited about this coming episode I feel; okay the young Kara’s and Alex’s acting also because they’re good but that’s really it.
On to the podcast…
“Which I won off this very podcast.” – awe. 🙂 Melissa should have picked Alex!
Finally an announcement on “Stargirl”! ?
There wouldn’t be a lot of content for the sisters as young kids because they weren’t together that long. You know how you could work in them while having years of content? Do an Alex spin off, but they’re too foolish it seems to lock Chyler down like that.
Apparently the writers are writing this season for themselves because it’s certainly not for the characters or fans. I no longer apologize for my bitterness towards the situation.
They need to stop lying, they’re just going to mess up the pilot because they don’t acknowledge season one; ugh they irritate me so much with talk like this now. I will not be reading article of lies.
So what you’re saying is…Monty is Batman because I clearly Joker now. Ha. Monty Wayne. ?
Again I have to say after season one they stopped caring about Kara Danvers and focused on writing Klark Kanvers – she looks like Kara but is really Clark sadly. ☹️
Where did you find fun in this John?
“How can you not just smile?!” – like this ?.
Alex does need therapy Daryl, it’s just too bad we’ll never see it as it’s probably unnecessary to show given we know she does. Yeah I’m slamming the writers with this comment. Again no apologizes anymore for the bitter!
Just as a note, this episode is set in 2009 and our series started in 2015 so that’s only 6 years (probably 5 give or take some months difference) to go from “CJ” Grant to the Cat we know and loved; I’m not going to say it’s impossibly to do but I kind of find it hard to believe honestly. If this was just starting out Cat okay, but as Daryl said this doesn’t really seem like the Cat who wrote the book Eliza had when Alex was still in high school even so you’re looking at a year to two even before this episode and again to become the Cat we know…it’s a lot to ask if you care about believability.
I agree John, Alex was definitely in character in this episode; she was the only one who actually made sense honestly!
I know you aren’t laughing at me John. ?
I did say “because glasses” seeing the scene Justina, ha, but the scene just wasn’t funny to me because the idea of that as a disguise is just so illogical as we know. It’s funny to the fans because we talk about its absurdity but for the characters beyond Kara to believe it and use it is just sad. Again past Alex and Kara don’t know them so why the glasses? Just to be funny which for me made the joke unfunny.
The bat tricks were cool for baseball Brainy but that’s it.
Brenda and Brandon are a reference to “Beverly Hills 90210”.
“If Kara fell through the gym roof, how did her DNA wind up in center field on the baseball field?” – because she walked there so blood dropped there? The most fresh source should be at the gym though as you said Monty. Again there are so many issues with this episode that it’s fitting they say Crisis changed things in it because Crisis is also a dumpster fire!
I actually didn’t mind Nia trying to call her mom in the episode, that’s one of the small things that made sense! Was it smart? Arguably no, but it’s smarter than anything Brainy did this whole episode!
I can pretend Kara said Zor El instead of Danvers at first because she was hoping maybe it would get credit with the “aliens”, but yeah it should have been Danvers at that time. It felt like they were nodding to the intro with that line but it was so heavy obvious it became more annoying to me than funny or endearing. The missed laugh to “jokes” in this episode happened a lot I have to say…I’m not sure I chuckled once.
“Is that SCHMUCK, Adam’s father?” – maybe Carter’s if something had happened but Adam would have already been born at that stage Monty.
A screwed up title essentially – just another reason to hate this episode!
I agree Dreamweaver, Alex remembering the weather from 6 years ago was weird; maybe post Crisis Alex is into that as a hobby so SHE remembers even if our real Alex wouldn’t?
They wouldn’t give something so awesome Justina to Kara, they’d save it for Clark; I took it as just a weird line.
I agree Leslie regarding the Kenny alive effect!
The same writers you say? Yep next episode is going to be a dumpster fire too it sounds! Too bad the writers don’t listen to these actors though Justina!
1. Jokes while Alex is stuck in the Ryan Wyler mini-van in a National City traffic jam while waiting for the NCPD to unsnarl the mess so she can get Kara’s brush to the Bell Tower set ripped off from Batwoman and redressed to look like the Supergirl Just Us League airplane hanger.
a. Chyler is on the phone to her agent talking behind the wheel of some veicle at a four way intersection with cars blowing horns at her, making the conversation she has on her phome a bit hard to hear; “I don’t care what it takes. I want that Green Lantern Series with Odette as my co-star. I know we have to recast the part of Hal, cause no one wants to see Ryan Reynolds in it again. Arisia? Who is Arisia?” Pull back to show Chyler is in Ryan Wilder minivan from Batwoman with a big “S” painted on its side, so we know it is the Supergirl minivan now. Horns, cars, people yelling and a harassed cop are all in group shot to set the episode theme. Title card!
b. The makeup lady runs up, her make up kit at the ready. Chyler sticks her head out the mini-van window and asks, “What gives?” and the makeup lady says to her, “I have to fix your eye-shadow, Ms. Leigh. You play Rocket Raccoon in the next scene.” Chyler asks, “Who is Rocket Raccoon? I’m supposed to be Sentinel.”
c. The makeup lady does her thing and David Harewood and Sharon Leal in their Martian getups, stroll in photo-bomb the scene, and with the Martian fix of the week, levitate a path for Chyler’s minivan to proceed through the lane they clear. (CGI effect.)
d. Derek Simon (use a crawler script scroller here, to i.d. him) in an uncredited unpaid cameo is getting a traffic ticket from the cop for crashing his Pinto into a sedan clearly broad boarded with door billboards as belonging to “Supergirl writer’s carpool vehicle”. Have an S symbol on the roof for the unnecessary travelling crane pan shot, to establish he CAUSED the traffic jam as we PoV that traffic jam with mixed Berlanti show pool vehicles from Flash, and Batwoman interspersed as part of the traffic jam. These vehicles should have Bat and Flash symbols on their roofs in a similar style to the writer car-pool vehicle seen and to the clumsily altered Ryan Wilder mini-van.
e. Next shot return to Two Person mid range shot. The makeup lady has finished Chyler’s Rocket Raccoon eyeshadow rings around her eyses. Chyler looks in the driver’s rear view mirror and sees her hair is a mess. She reaches for the brush.. the one we have established from last episode is the one with Kara’s DNA on it and Chyler fixes her own hair with it. Cue the laugh track…
I can write about sixty pages of that stuff to fill out the episode, but one gets the idea? “Traffic Jam Three: the Epic Journey of Kara’s Hairbrush”.
The end is that Alex is cloned/altered into and as Supergirl 2.0 and manages to recover Kara in a eighty episode minimax series with apologies to “The Fly” and to John Byrne who wrote “The Super Girl Saga Story Arc” and later to Peter Alan David for his “Earth Angel” to create a fantastic fiasco very like this story treatment sets up.
2.Will Braindead and Dreamer alter the timeline? Jesse Rath might play Fatman, but I do not anticipate Nicole Maines will play Blobbin in the new Chyler Leigh “I’m so Blue Lantern / Supergirl 2.0 Series.
3. At this moment in the show, if Derek Simon was the author of that idea, I would write “Bravo for you, DS; you can add that continuity Kryptonite mistake to your job application for your next writing gig for Batwoman. I presume Caroline Dries will be shocked at the prospect of hiring a writer BETTER than her current staff of hack no-talents. Even you would be a step up for that shoe. But for all of that, I have this remark… Kered Nimos. Can you say it? How about that? Smarter than I thought you were. Now get out of here and do not return for thirty days like it says in the rule book for people like you.
4.I thought Eliza Helm actually tried and failed successfully because she was FUNNY in the Batwoman casting mistakes sense. I will have something to say about casting and time set screwups when we get to WHY the Bartender was Adam’s deadbeat dad in a moment.
5. Chyler should be dressed in her Sentinel getup when she auteurs the next travesty episode. She needs to be inspired to match the dreadful stuff we have had so far. Seeing herself in the garb will remind her, just who ended her career as an actor. So she might as well learn how to direct. Her agent still can land her the role of Rocket Raccoon in Guardians of the Galaxy IV, Peter Quill Finds a New Dance Partner”.
6. Stargirl is Geoff Johns. If one considers that Johns has learned from the Ryan Reynolds fiasco; (See 1a), then be happy. Courtney and Kara (Justice League Unlimited) do not like each other, we could see a Supergirl teamup Johns treatment that could be very funny and sad at the same time. If I remember the Skartoros episode properly from JLU, Courtney discovers that beneath the Kryptonian “royalty”, who is Kara zor-el, there is a very scared girl who tries desperately to live up to the unrealistic expectations others have of her. Come to think of it, Kara in Dwayne MacDuffie’s other treatments, is the GOLD standard for her television presentations. There was some good writing and character development then.
7. Kardos and Royvner. Ugh. Stick to writing fiction. Oh… they DID. Well, then stop fantasizing and open eyes and look around. NOBODY CARES about your failed point of view. You’ve been CANCELLED. They call it “cancel culture” for a good business reason. Because nobody buys it.
8. Clark Kanvers? Have you heard of Carl Danvers, the current version of Captain Marvel? She used to be a good character until someone decided to MAN her up. When will liberal arts major writers get it through their heads that SUBTLE is more powerful than hitting someone over the head with an SJW Buick? If one wants to know how to write SJW Supergirl, then look at how Chris Claremont wrote Carol after Jim Shooter screwed her up with his misogyny and his disgusting story unacceptable line developments (Avengers 200 is the issue where that one happened and started. Avengers Annual; 10 is where Chris Claremont had to fix that mess.). You want to get an SJW message across, hit Carol over the head with a Ford, not a Buick. The readers will notice the difference and WAKE UP.
9.. Carl and Alex as teenagers will not work. If these writers cannot get the sister act as adults correct, then how are they going to deal with the complexities of 12 year olds?
10. Time problems. Take a 45 year old Cat Grant and subtract 6 years. How old is Eliza Helm? 29ish? Now that bartender is in the right place and chronological setup to be a Cat-fling and Adam’s dad. I submit that time distortion does not matter and that with this sorry season’s scrapping of continuity, we might as well fill in the open blanks to suit ourselves. Both Q actors have the same negative camera effect to me, and I just bridge the gap of negative A to B. Carter? How old is he? About 10 in season 1?
11. All the bat tricks that Jesse Rath performed mean nothing to me, except that he is qualified to either flip hamburgers or be cleanup on a minor league ball club. His lousy baton twirling was “unimpressive”. Show me some true Doug Marcaida or Willy Mays and I might hire him as bat boy for the Myrtle Beach AAA baseball club.
12. Brenda and Brandon were a reference I passed through. Never liked 90210.
13. Leave any future event actionable information behind and QM theory suggests instant erasure and closure of the light cone. IOW Dreamer could blink reality to black with a simultaneity paradox by just making that phone call. Hence no time travel ever happens.
14.Kara is not walking anywhere after punching a Smallville type event. She will be in a hospital bed with doctors breaking needles on her skin. Then it is off to CADMUS for her. Otherwise the Scooby Gang has to find her IN THE BASEBALL FIELD. Story logic, folks. Learn it and love it.
15. Kara Danvers has been a culturalist supremacist and a bigot from Season 1 when it was established that she was a Kryptonian with Kryptonian arrogance and narrow mindedness as Big Daddy Martian pointed out was a root cause of her anger issues. (Red Faced). Hate to say it, but I looked back real quickly and Kara, as written, has always thought of her Kryptonianess first and refused to assimilate a true human adaptation or compassion for others in the human sense, as the writers wrote her on this show. That glitch really has bugged me. Because it is ARROGANCE, not to feel or see the other’s PoV; or to acknowledge in a new circumstance one’s new adopted family and culture as one’s own.
16. “Prom” can be short for promise. Well, it was not kept.
17. Covered the Schmuck.
18. Climate change reference. The asteroid has to hit to raise the dust to create the nuclear winter albedo effect. Or if it is pulverized in mid air, it becomes the dust to create the albedo effect. IOW…liberal arts majors try to be sciencey and do not get the cause effect chain correct. So what have we learned, folks? People who pass English 101 and get through their STEM classes work on NASA gravity tug schemes to divert asteroids and keep that dino-killer away from us. People, who flunked basic writing and skipped all the algebra, trig and calculus stuff, wind up as Supergirl show writers and get series cancelled in 6. Or they become Batwoman writers and are cancelled in 3. But both sets of incompetents are carried along on the books way past their “stink on ice dates” as Network TAX WRITE-OFFS as business expenses.
19. Spin off city? Not a chance. The Tiny Superman and Not Lois show will join Batwoman as laugh therapy for me.
20. I want that Kenny Pun.
21. How next episode goes depends on how much scotch I have. I think I might have an Alex problem? Not really. There is a difference between choice and need. I don’t need it to get through it.
22. On the kangaroo front, did you know that kangaroos hate sandy beaches? OTOH I keep thinking and visulaizing how great it would have bene to film Rogue One the right way with Rebel skimmers (Hovercraft to us.) loaded with Rebellion troopers coming in from the sea to shelf up on this gorgeous beach and attack the imperial shield generator on the crest I see. Stunning visuals.
Talk about using the sands of Iwo Jima for inspiration? Gareth Edwards really screwed that film up. No imagination.
“IOW Dreamer could blink reality to black with a simultaneity paradox by just making that phone call. Hence no time travel ever happens.” – that’s not a bad thing. Uh the episode was SO disappointing.
“I want that Kenny Pun.” – with the writing quality now you may get it Monty. Ha.
So what you’re saying is you’re now hiding from the cute, lunch stealing marsupial by hanging out on the beach? Rough life. Ha! I can’t help but think they’re watching you and just saying “I’ll get you in a minute!”; because unless you leave by water you possibly have to face them again. Kangaroos – Monty’s greatest nemesis. 🙂
1. As you saw from “Prom Again”, there is disappointment and then there is something that resembles “I Don’t Care” by Justin Bieber and Ed Sheeran.
2. The kangaroo may be cute, but he has bad breath. Yeah, I got that close to one.
Batgerbilette 2.0 was not too good tonight.
I am very unhappy.
Batgerbillette 2.0
Batwoman (TV Series) “Initiate Self-Destruct” (2021) (212)
Full Cast & Crew
Directed by Glen Winter
Writing Credits
Bob Kane … (based on characters created for DC by) &
Bill Finger … (based on characters created for DC by)
Caroline Dries … (developed by)
Jerry Shandy … (teleplay by)
Zack Siddiqui … (story by)
Natalie Abrams … (story editor) &
Ebony Gilbert … (story editor)
Maya Houston … (staff writer) &
Daphne Miles … (staff writer)
Cast (in credits order) complete, awaiting verification
Javicia Leslie … Ryan Wilder / Batwoman
Rachel Skarsten … Alice
Meagan Tandy … Sophie Moore
Nicole Kang … Mary Hamilton
Camrus Johnson … Luke Fox
Dougray Scott … Colonel Jacob Kane
Peter Outerbridge … Roman Sionis / Black Mask
Wallis Day … Kate Kane / Circe Sionis
Laura Mennell … Enigma / Dr. Evelyn Rhyme
Nathan Owens … Ocean
Bevin Bru … Angelique Martin
Jesse Hutch … Agent Russel Tavaroff
Jessica Garcie … Crows Lab Tech
Christian Sloan … Patchwork
Cooper Bibaud … Teardrop
Mathew Yanagiya … False Face Sentry
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AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH!
I watched it sober!
Kate Kane *(Wallis Day) is now Roman Sionis’ daughter via voodoo hypnosis. Somehow Sophie erases Ryan Wilder’s record from the National Criminal Information Catalog? Circe Sionis is named after a Game of Thrones character? HOW did Caroline Dries get to be the showrunner of this manure heap of a show? :{
How did she sell it? Who was the “person” who greenlit this trash?
Hypnosis does not work that way. The people who wrote the hypnosis ex machina obviously intend for the hypnosis to be broken when Enigma taps her staff and says the code word.
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The rescue of the criminals, Ocean and Angelique, are presented as moral acts.
This presentation of Jake Kane as a drug addict is not even comic book credible. How stupid is his daughter who does not notice the “I am a drug addict” sign flashing over his head? Mary Hamilton has the IQ of a rock. Obviously, so do the writers.
On that subject of Jake Kane and Dougray Scott overacting and Nicole Kang woddenly standing there as if she cannot believe she has to pretend to sell the idiocies of the illegal clinic now made quasi-legal by using disconnected fax machines to report gunshot wounds to the GCPD…
In another scene, we see Jake Kane “handle” his drug additction at Crows HQ>
Of course in that prior scene, Jake has just finished shooting up in the middle of Crows Headquarters in his office with clear windows where all the people around him can see him daub the blood off his needle marks as he finishes. Yet, Sophie who comes into scene AS HE DOES THIS, has to make a second trip later to find his drug kit in the safe and his spent needles in the TRASH CAN. Just how STUPID do the writers think the audience are?
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Sophie, the character, erases her trace digital presence by using the delete button. That is not how it works. Can the writers figure out how the FBI reads a hard drive? Nope.
Do I have to point out the Ryan / Alice team-up is a pairing of two careless criminal sociopaths? It is supposed to be played for laughs with casual murders committed being jokes, but can I tell you something? I was morally horrified at the writers’ depravity and callousness toward incidents that would turn Jeffrey Dahmer’s stomach. This is the evil depths to what this disgusting show has descended.
I think the SJW message and the depiction of “the other” has crossed into fascist celebratory territory here. The Blowtorch BBQ was the final moral event horizon crossed. Batman has always had that fascist tendency in the DC myth, the Bruce Wayne knowing what is best for Gotham and he will impose it, no matter what laws and human rights he tramples along the way theme, which Frank Miller, before he turned fascist, himself, so outrageously and hilariously lampooned in All Star Batman and Robin (ASBAR). This show celebrates the theme with gusto.
Gotham city can be saved through a community center? Ryan Wilder, the character said that after she did nothing about Alice blow torching a False Face goon and flat out murdering him in front of her. Gotham City is not going to be saved by a criminal like you, Batgerbillete 2.0. Not unless this Gotham City has an H-bomb go off IN THAT COMMUNITY CENTER!
With you in it.
Rate it. Ah heck, Negative infinity to negative infinity cubed. Can we at least suggest that seeing “Kate Kane” kick the crap out of Ryan Wilder and Alice in a two on one fight was a good thing? Actually no, because once again, the implicit racism is that a white woman will automatically beat the crap out of black woman and the disrespect for the character, Ryan Wilder, as a black woman who cannot succeed, unless a white woman (Alice) is there to help her, continues.
Murphy; I HATE this show.
Monty
Amen to that. To What? To that. All of that.
How has this dreck been renewed? You didn’t mention the end of Ryan and Angelique because no one cares.
At least one interesting question was brought up though, to what extent is the Bat – Legacy worth committing crimes to protect?
John P. McGrail on May 3, 2021 at 2:08 pm
Amen to that. To What? To that. All of that.
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It is what it is.
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How has this dreck been renewed? You didn’t mention the end of Ryan and Angelique because no one cares.
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I suppose when the Ryan character leaves “Alice” to the mercies of “Circe” and reads back to Alice, what Alice told her; “Well, you can’t save everyone”, it is supposed to be a morality statement on Alice, on Ryan, and on how these writers see “justice” in general. How the show got renewed is a good question.
I think I can compare it to a much superior series. Netflix had a hugely controversial show called the “I Land” which was about a really dark experiment in criminal rehabilitation through virtual reality and mind control. Essentially; Texas, as a Red State ready to fry a whole collection of despicable murderers, tries to social engineer them into law-abiding citizens through this intense program of experiential morality training. Those, who fail, get the Morpheus send-off. The prison warden and the heroine who discovers what happens have a real death dance, with he trying to flunk her out and she desperately trying to prove that she has changed and is a worthy candidate to salvage for society. On Babylon 5 a similar theme was single episode tackled in the episode; titled “Passing Through Gethsamene”. The person, who was a mass murderer in that episode had been so reprogrammed, he had become a monk and was trying to live a right life. the brother of one of his female victims, broke the monk’s programming, so that he remembered who he was. The thick of the episode was that the monk, even though he remembered that he was a mass murderer, also realized now that he was a moral human being who had to pay with his life for what he did. So he allowed the brother of the murdered girl his vengeance. And then the brother of the murdered girl, who murdered the monk, had his “personality” erased, his memories wiped, and he, in turn, took the monk’s place. It was so similar to the “I-Land” in concept and context for the moral issues and horror it raised, that it still gives me ethical nightmares.
I suppose you realize that both that episode on Babylon 5 and the I-Land series on Netflix bombed with the critics at the time and in the viewer ratings?
Babylon 5 churned on with a rip-snorter action-adventure episode and survived the ratings dip. Netflix cancelled I-Land.
What has this pair of examples to do with Batwoman? They pretend to the moral deepitude and social justice implications B5 and the I-Land tackled head-on. The B-show virtue signals with red-flags and misses the plain implications of their own evil on display. No respect for life, due process, rights, ethics, ethos (a seldom used word that means a culture’s aspirations, beliefs and moral myths.) or core values. The B-show is selfishness, me-ism, undisguised racism and “special privilege” as evinced and imagined by the disgusting and corrupt “creatives” who fan fiction their “desires” instead of trying to create characters, tell stories and entertain with thought provoking situations and choices in a “What would I do, if given this circumstance” setup?
Why was this garbage renewed? Caroline Dries sold it to someone that she could fix season one with a better season two. Now that she has failed, why is there a season three? Time slot filler, special audience virtue signaling by the network and an “unknown” which I do not frankly understand. I have comments that the show is being downed by WMP bigots who feel threatened “by the show message”. 600,000 viewers in an audience of 25,000,000 potential customers at whom Liberty Insurance can advertise is NOT being downed by WMP bigots. It is the market place of ideas, saying; “I would rather watch QVC rat-merchants sell a lousy non-stick fry-pan set than watch Batwoman.”
Show renewal for 3rd season? Who knows where the dead bodies are buried on that one? I do not. I will not speculate on the reason, since I do not know. However, the show has another 6 guaranteed episodes for season 2 and could pull a full 23. How that happened is beyond me.
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At least one interesting question was brought up though, to what extent is the Bat – Legacy worth committing crimes to protect?
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The answer in ASBAR was any excuse was good enough. In DC Bat canon as exemplified in the OMAC and Brother-Eye story-lines; no excuse can justify “special privilege”, police statism, elitism, violation of human dignity and private person, or the right to choose for oneself, just to preserve the “Batman Legacy”. Batman is KILLED to atone for his transgressions. In a real squick story treatment in the story arc entitled
“Wargames”, Stephanie Brown as a Robin is drill-bitted to death by Black Mask because Batman screwed up. He gets to pay with his life and his
Bat reputation for his crimes (and they were crimes) in that one.
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Angelique skates and Ryan will get a new squeeze next week. Angelique will go into Witness Protection instead of Iron Heights or Blackgate for the next 20 years and Alice will be shot at sunrise.
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I really do not know language colorful enough or metaphors graphic enough to describe in true detail what I thought about that coda.
Nobody cares, I guess, is good enough.
Anyway, as I believe in cancel culture for the “correct reasons” I think this show is a candidate.
And to think, I “liked” Wallis Day on “Krypton”.
Oh well.
Monty
I watched Supergirl a short while ago. I will watch it again. Right now I am not happy. You read me, writers? NOT HAPPY.
Monty
Supergirl (TV Series)”Prom Again!” (2021) (205)
Full Cast & Crew
Directed by Chyler Leigh
Writing Credits
Otto Binder … (based on characters created by) and
Al Plastino … (based on characters created by)
Greg Berlanti … (developed by) &
Ali Adler … (developed by) &
Andrew Kreisberg … (developed by)
Rob Wright … story
Jessica Kardos … (executive story editor) (as Jess Kardos)
Nicki Holcomb … (story editor)
Cast (in credits order)
Melissa Benoist … Kara Danvers / Supergirl (credit only)
Chyler Leigh … Alex Danvers (credit only)
Katie McGrath … Lena Luthor (credit only)
Jesse Rath … Brainiac-5
Nicole Maines … Nia Nal / Dreamer
Azie Tesfai … Kelly Olsen (credit only)
Julie Gonzalo … Andrea Rojas (credit only)
Staz Nair … William Dey (credit only)
Peta Sergeant … Nxylgsptinz (credit only)
David Harewood … J’onn J’onnz / Martian Manhunter (credit only)
Izabela Vidovic Izabela Vidovic … Young Kara
Olivia Nikkanen … Young Alex
Peter Adrian Sudarso … Kenny Li (as Peter Sudarso)
Eliza Helm … CJ Grant
Chris William Martin … Naxim Tork
Matt Baram Matt Baram … Mitch
Nik Vasilyev Nik Vasilyev … Bartender
Anita Wittenberg Anita Wittenberg … Glee Club Teacher
Hello Maid of Steel podcasters Psychology Today reading Monty here with a sludge dump, er review on this latest week’s offerings from the Supergirl writers.
Has one ever noticed in recent modern television programming, how when the school year winds down to a close and the series episodes roll out, that “Prom Night”, no matter the type of show, be it cop-show, family sitcom, soap opera, workplace comedy, or superhero action adventure, the subject of Prom Night comes up and the episode is loaded with show-writers-generated self validation and fantasy generated fan-fiction type situational set-pieces where the show writers try to work out their own still present in them neuroses and left over from high school still operating insecurities and self-loathings in a fantasy retelling of how THEY think their failed proms should have gone for THEM?
Message from the universe to those writers comes in three parts.
1. Nobody cares about your issues.
2. Man or woman or they / them up as the specific case warrants, as to your individual situations, but stop behaving, writing and acting as children.
“When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things.”
That is 1 Corinthians 13:11
The target audience the advertisers, or the presenters want to reach is the young professional adults with disposable income in the 18-39 age bracket. They are ADULTS. They are supposed to be entertained with a story and situation that will hold them them either to the stream or through the commercial broadcast so that they will BUY something the show serves as a platform to SELL them.
Note the words “sell them”. That is the job, writers. Sell THEM the show. The show is not a therapy vehicle for YOU. Nobody cares about YOU. Get over YOU. Grow up and do your jobs.
Hence, the proper writing for the fanfiction therapy vehicle of Kenny in this episode is to KILL HIM. That is the whole thematic purpose of the Southpark Kill Kenny Joke. He is the meme standard for that childishness in the emotionally stunted childish human beings the show so viciously lampoons.
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The episode has its usual illogical cause effect disordered sequence chains which one expects from psychologically disordered and clearly neurotic writing. For example…Braindead tells Dreamer that he sent the Bolisian ship with Mitch and Max Torque off to Paraguay where in three days the ship will beacon itself and a DEO collector team will arrive and pick up the Collector and his stooge and put them under glass at the DEO facility from Season One. That is what he said. Couple scenes later, in that lousy baseball field, Cat Grant throws pebbles at the Bolosian ship, pushes buttons and lets Max and Mitch loose from where Braindead and Dreamer caged them inside their ship.
A CHILD writes that way and does not catch the glitch in the word processor. Plainly CHILDREN as a group allow it to reach broadcast status. Understand me. This should NEVER have survived first draft or made it into second or third rewrite. Hence it is a RED FLAG to me that the showrunners, the actors, the director, the production crew threw this mess together and collected a pay check. The writers, at least, who have given up on this show, at least had enough oompf left to turn this crapfest into a self therapy and self-validation vehicle to work out some personal issues on Network Television.
Of course, being children in their disordered thinking, they failed to function check and mirror analyze, so they will not have learned anything about themselves and change their actions or characters as they allege C. J. Grant does after Dreamer gives her a self actuation and self validation pep-talk to break out of her Perry White Cage and become the CAT.
By the way, just so you know, that Cat story line in the Prom episodes, both of them, was a sniper job on Supergirl’s replacement show; the “Tiny Superman and Not Lois” one. In effect, by making the visual, aural, and plot metaphors of the pink caged cougar unleashed from her Perry White (white male dominated) employment cage, these showrunners and writers took a direct editorial negative aim at the characters of Superman (Clark) and the wife he dominates (Lois) and suggest to the audience, whoever they are at this point, that THEY on Supergirl, were canceled because the powers that be, on the CW, wanted to retreat to a more safe and less progressive show. A return to “Smallville” and the past of male dominance, to the Patriarchy, instead of becoming forward thinkers, such as the Supergirl writers, think they are.
Too bad, nobody reads Nietzsche these days. Otherwise, these sludge writers would realize, we have been there and done that modern “feminist studies” actual fascist viewpoint malarkey. Millions died. Liberals won. Human beings grow up. Tolerance and equal rights, not special pleadings or the female leader principle is how adults behave. There is some actual “good” in that patriarchy writers. By the liberal code, men are expendable, and women are to be cherished and exalted.
That is the way the adult human world works. That is why shows with a twisted approach, where reality as to physical strength differences and physiomorph conventions and where women are treated as if they thought and behaved like men, does not work.
In this story, actually this season, the character of Braindead has been fastened with mood swings, an eating disorder and told to act with physical mannerisms which suggest hermaphroditic psychology. if Jesse Rath could even attempt to pull that acting role off it would not have taken me so long to recognize the attempt, but he cannot and he actually insults real psychological functional human hermaphrodites. Call it gender bigotry, a trap into which supposed progressives fascistically fall and fail as they did and do here. Credit Nicole Mains who lives the life and walks the real walk to actually ACT to her life and to her true self.
Funny, that I mention Nicole Maines? She IS the only functional adult in this utter travesty and psychologically disordered exercise in Red Flag Warnings of a whole lot of people who need professional help.
I mean you, Supergirl show writers. One last time. GROW UP. Nobody cares about YOU. We are here for SUPERGIRL. Do your jobs, right and give US, what we want.
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You might want to take a look at that value. This is the worst episode I have ever seen on television. PERIOD.
Monty