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[sc:astop]Cammien Ray and Martin the Flash dive into the future with the rest of Team Arrow, in this week’s all-flashforward episode. Bombs are armed and disarmed, masquerades are thrown, and we see the birth of the Queen heir – and what she becomes. Join us as we chat about what happens to Star City in 2040.
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Speaking of Siren, where is she? We have yet to see a future her also; is she dead and if so how did she die? Is she still evil?! 🙂 Is she hiding somewhere too or has a new job now so she left town long ago? Where is old Siren?
Seeing Nyssa just warms my little Nyssa fangirl heart so much! Dear Flash please tell the “Legends Of Tomorrow” writers see you can use her when you need – she’s available you just have to do it! I will always be bitter towards them for not including her more; I get they want to do Avalance but that doesn’t mean you can have Nyssa on too unless you feel Nyssara is the better option so your scared to or you don’t want to give away your endgame. Why can’t Nyssa be on LEGENDS writers?! 🙁
I would like to take a minute to just say oh Cammie…Cammie, Cammie, Cammie – the deliciousness in which you served this line on your after show, “Renee’s not trustworthy. Dinah may or may not be trustworthy, but she trusts Renee so she can’t be trusted with that information” in regards to why was Nyssa allowed to train Mia but not Dinah or Roy, was perfection! 🙂 I thank you for it and I just want to hug and kiss and love that comment all over especially as it came after your well done explanation about why Felicity and Nyssa are cute together and why the “wedding” with Oliver is a complete sham and should never be called such! It was certainly worthy of you hoisting whatever was in that cup that night in that cup because it was a “let me tell you something” style glass. Ha.
Note: the word you were looking for Cammie in regards to Felicity being an enhancer for everyone is bacon; she is not a sauce she is bacon as it improves basically everything. 🙂
Also extreme yes to a “Birds of Prey” spin off but Katie will have to go back to playing Laurel more than Siren because there’s only room for one anti hero on the team and that’s Huntress; then again Greg Berlanti doesn’t really care about staying core to a comic so we could have two in which case bring on Black Siren! 🙂 Whoever is Batgirl/Oracle is definitely going to have their hands full with them. That said I don’t think we’ll see a BOP show anytime soon given a movie starting Canary and Huntress is coming (it’s BOP lite not the real deal as you know it’ll mainly be about Harley) and they’re already doing “Batwoman” who’s got Gotham so to avoid overcrowding and explaining why X doesn’t show up each week they can’t have the city which is usually where they base. I’m good with Siren still going to “Batwoman” as someone suggests last week as long as they keep her at least as an anti hero; maybe showing powers from the jump will help it feel like it fits more than what happened with “Arrow” where they teched the Cry for so long when it became real it felt off to you and others.
Off the Cammie hour now and back to the regularly scheduled podcast so as not to leave out Flash… 🙂
In the spirit of this week’s episode – https://mobile.twitter.com/lordmesa/status/1108098617087152135/photo/1 .
“Batwoman” came out of the crossover so I wouldn’t say she’s “Arrow” specific necessarily. This was totally a backdoor pilot. #TeamStickyNotes!
I’m loving adult William in the flashforwards! It might be the best thing Flash said but I actually wasn’t crazy about Mia this episode compared to the others. I’m still meh to Connor.
I fangirled so hard seeing Nyssa! 🙂
Sadly I agree Flash we won’t see Oliver apologize on screen to Dinah, EVEN THOUGH SHE TOTALLY DESERVES IT, so I’ll just have to add it to my “forever bitter” list. Ha.
Speaking of the bitter list, I wish we had seen paralyzed Felicity more because that was a great plot that ended far too soon. Yes they called back to the chip once but it’s kind of like that’s been forgotten also when it is a perfect target for villains! Well said Dazzler.
If the “great responsibility” line was a nod to Stan Lee then that’s cool, but if it’s not than it’s weird seeing the two brands mix; you can certainly like both brands don’t get me wrong but again it’s admittedly weird seeing them give each other credit outside of big events.
Joseph David-Jones plays adult Connor to answer your question Flash; he is also Connor/JJ Diggle he said in the Legends episode “Star City 2046” so explain that via timey wimey! 🙂 If he’s no longer JJ then the question becomes where is JJ? Did Barry or Nora bring back baby Sara finally so she is now back to be leader of Argus maybe? Or are they just bumping JJ to never speak of him again in the name of Connor?
I agree with Flash, I think the first season for sure of a Mia lead series with this group would be how they don’t get along and you have drama on various fronts to work out but story wise if you want to go long term they have to get along better at least in all sections such as maybe Mia and William get along better but Mia doesn’t trust Dinah or Zoe and Connor get along but she’s not crazy about Roy for some reason. It could take up to two seasons to find their grove but long term they have to get along because if it’s all animosity as refreshing as it would be I don’t know how it would work for keeping some fans interested as we saw fans not being excited for OTA vs NTA and that only lasted a few episodes so a whole series no.
What if Thea faults herself and Roy for not being there when Oliver dies and trying to help so it causes them to break up (this explaining her absence and why she’s not around Mia – it’s too painful) and so Roy lashed out because he felt out of control again being told no by the cop? It was a really random outburst so something is up but drugs feels like the easy go to so hopefully it’ll be something we don’t expect.
There are no more Lazarus pits, Nyssa took them out in like season 4 if I remember correctly in order to stop Malcolm from using them when she was trying to regain control of the league after Oliver’s moves screwed her out of being the head after Raz. If she didn’t get them all by some chance who took Roy to the place because only a limited number of people know how to use them much less where they are. Again I think magical influence if you will is a little too on the nose but we’ll see what they do; I hope it’s not drugs as that’s a “seen it” plot for him.
WATCH “Supergirl” PEOPLE! S1 is AMAZING! S2 and 3 depend on how much you like a certain character and S4 has been trying with a plot but as a whole again I say it is the best of the superhero shows. 🙂 100% we have the best villains so if you like quality bad guys “Supergirl” is your show. 🙂 I’d be bummed for Lois but if they wrote Clark away from the series I wouldn’t be upset.
20 years comes from a newspaper title Nora showed Barry this season on “Flash” and it’s about how he’s been missing for 20 after this unknown event which may or may not be crossover related. I hope Clark doesn’t get his own show, we have 1001 Superman things people can watch – let Kara stay the Super for the CW for the future (again 5 more years at least). Woah Flash, no NO no to canceling “Supergirl”; if Flash can be on the big screen and on TV at the same time so can Supergirl.
That’s totally fair Stormy about how Oliver should be shown coming back and maybe that’s a Mia show season 4 reveal or something or how their series ends so Stephen gets time away like he wants but Oliver isn’t gone forever so that kind of wraps up both series.
I definitely took it as Renee doing his part of whatever plan they came up with because Dinah and Zoe say he didn’t want to say it but he had too.
“I hope that friendships created because of TV shows can last forever!” – awe Butterfly!
“Katrina Law is awesome” – agreed Flash!
It was a very Skynet moment at the end. 🙂
Did you notice the edited arrow for the end title shot? That was cool too.