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[sc:astop]As the title would suggest, allegiances are shifting across Team Dragon and Team Arrow, as both Oliver and Diaz alienate and draw in the people around them. As NTA returns to the spotlight to save the city, Oliver leaves on some critical last-minute missions before his trial.
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We’ll give you a past this time Flash. 🙂
It might be wrong, but salty over Renee Cammie might be my favorite Cammie. 🙂
I wanted to enjoy the Anatoli stuff but I just couldn’t this week as he felt out of character for timing; had he always had conflict about facing Oliver it’d be one thing but because he basically told Oliver he was the enemy recently I don’t buy the shift so all of his scenes fell short for me and that was sad because usually Anatoli’s stuff is some of the best stuff in episodes.
I don’t want anti-hero Laurel I have to say as I feel we don’t have enough quality bad guys on series and she can hold down that post for 3 shows (FLASH, ARROW, and LEGENDS)…although as I’ve said we also don’t have enough anti-heroes on the series (let Sam be SUPERGIRL’s!) but with Laurel I’d just rather see her stay evil; I can see them going anti-hero though if Lance is killed and they want to insist she actually cared. The one thing I’d hope they’d keep though is Black Siren’s dislike of Oliver either way because we need someone on that show who calls out his bull more than once a season if that so if she kept hating on him I think it’d be easier to take anti-hero Siren if they went there otherwise just keep her evil.
Speaking of people I want to keep – can we please keep Zoe?!
I’m still with you Cammie on Dragon – I enjoyed him in the episode but he’s still no Prometheus; he’s got good plans to screw with Oliver and he’s got a physical side to him as well but I can’t shake the vibe of cliche with him for some reason so I’m watching but if I had to pick I’d rather see what evil Laurel is doing each week than Richard right now.
I agree with Flash in that the Quentin-Laurel story has hurt both characters! It will be a real disappointment if they turn Siren into a hero because to me it will be spitting in a sense on Laurel as the Canary because they had a chance to do right with her and chose instead to kill her off and if I was Katie I’d just be worried if they said I was play the hero again because of how poorly they handled Laurel in S4. I just can’t see any good coming from a redeemed Siren!
“What are they going to do have Siren and Dinah fight for a place on the team?” – THE HORROR; do not even speak its name Cammie! Again that would just spit on everything and personally be a huge turn off to me as a viewer especially as all I could do is flashback to S4 and be angry again over how poorly Laurel was handled; you just can’t “my bad” that away writers, you went too deep with that plot. Again no good can come from a redeemed Laurel; the best you can hope for is anti-hero and again even with that for me she still has to hate Oliver and help the team for selfish reasons because doing it to be nice does not fit her – she’s not that much of an anti-hero!
Even if you ascribe to Lance is what Dragon has on Siren she could still kill him in his sleep after or even during sex if she wanted and skip out without getting shot. It’s just because plot and it’s frustrating; as you’ve both said they’re handicapping her for some reason and it doesn’t make sense!
“Let her betray everyone, take over, and cackle in their faces.” – YES!!! Co-sign, favorite, like – all the positive plus things!
Anatoli would definitely be my pick to move over to the good guys between he and Siren!
I totally feel John owed Dinah that apology but as Cammie says once again Renee taints that scene with his attitude because again YOU’RE THE ONE WHO STARTED ALL OF THIS RENEE! I’m not even sure Curtis deserved it that much given he was pretty in the middle this whole time so maybe he gets the concept of the apology but the actual one eh. Dinah is the only one who deserves the apology without question! I do like John apologized though, it’s more than I can say for Oliver 99% of the time; he is literally and figuratively the bigger man.
I would be fine with NTA breaking up although I would be sad to lose Zoe when Renee goes; I’m not sure what they would do with Curtis either if they’re not going to have him help run Smoak Technologies while Felicity helps Oliver but I’d unsurprisingly want Dinah to stay!
First Barry, now Oliver, it makes me wonder when Kara will be on trial in “Supergirl” for something.
No Cammie, Siren and team just have on going battles like they did with Malcolm – no taking her down in a season.
I’m going to call Amanda International Salty Cammie and like US Salty Cammie I loved her message! 🙂
Oliver hasn’t apologized to Dinah, he apologized to the boys but not really her like he should have; it’s fair to call Dinah out on not apologizing to Diggle over the arm, that’s her one bad but still I find it hard to be mad at her because Diggle did not have her back when everything started and she had been covering for him about the arm so maybe it’s an even for them where as Curtis should have apologized. Renee isn’t going to apologize to anyone on OTA I’ve just accepted that.
UGH Bat Jordan spoke its name, y’all are killing me; I could totally see them killing Lance and having evil Laurel be sad about it so she helps them take down Diaz, even though she could have done it herself episodes ago, and now she wants to do good in his name and just NO! No writers don’t do it! If anything have her be angry he’s dead and it makes her even more of a villain who’s pissed at the good guys; again if I was Katie I would be having such nervous feelings about all of this as the bad writing of her character is why she wanted to leave during S4. Again no good comes from Black Siren being redeemed!