Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 14: Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 – Feedback and News (3 of 3)


For episode 41 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I complete our discussion of Season 2 Episode 14 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2. This episode was written by Michelle Paradise & Jenny Lumet & Alex Kurtzman, and directed by Olatunde Osunsanmi. For this episode, we go through voicemails and other general feedback, our notes, and news. This is our third and final podcast covering this episode, so we recommend you start our coverage of the season finale by listening to episode 39 and then listen to episode 40 if you haven’t already done so. In episode 39, we go over feedback from the previous episode, as well as ratings and Yeses. In episode 40, we cover Nos and Hold Your Horses.

Fred’s Pics!

Like the last episode, pics were chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We let Fred’s pics do the talking for us! We have a supersized amount of pics for this episode, divided between this episode and last week’s episode 40, with a few pics in episode 39. These pictures cover the second half of the episode.

Now what do I think of the season finale, after a couple of weeks have passed?

After a couple of weeks, I still love the episode, but I am more sensitive to its flaws. Why couldn’t they beam out Cornwell? Why would Control break down after Leland is neutralized? Why didn’t Control go after Burnham? How was Ash able to be on the Chancellor’s ship, leading the fight? How did the Kelpiens go from their primitive state to piloting fighters in such a short time? These are all nitpicks to me, though, and don’t affect my ultimate rating, at least that much.

Ford Pinto!

A couple of things I mentioned in the episode were the Ford Pinto and the AVE Mizar. One thing I didn’t realize about the AVE Mizar during the recording was that the inventors of the “roadable aircraft” were killed in a test flight. Under the circumstances, I don’t feel so great about making fun of it anymore.

That’s it for the season finale!!

We are taking a well-deserved hiatus. We plan to be back sometime in June. We plan to do a Season 2 roundtable episode in June next, and then we’ll cover other feedback we haven’t had a chance to answer yet and any other feedback we get on these last three episodes after that. While you can respond to this episode or the previous two, we will not be covering any feedback received until episode 42 at the earliest, but probably not until episode 43. You can submit feedback via the GSM Feedback page, Facebook Group, Twitter, you can email startrekgsm at gmail dot com, or call the GSM voicemail at (304) 837-2278 and leave us a message there. Make sure to mention you’re calling The Star Trek Discovery Podcast when you call. We would like to keep our episodes down to a more reasonable podcast length. To help with this, we’d like you to focus on a few key points, rather than discussing everything about the episode. If submitting a voicemail, please try to keep your calls to 4 minutes or less.

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And now, here’s a visual look at Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2!

 

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (33:44) - Michael setting her Red Angel targets.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (33:44) – Michael setting her Red Angel targets.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:05) - The Red Angel's wings unfold.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (34:05) – The Red Angel’s wings unfold.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:23) - Time bubble.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (34:23) – Time bubble.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:30) - Michael pulled into the time portal.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (34:30) – Michael pulled into the time portal.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (34:58) - Michael time traveling.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (34:58) – Michael time traveling.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (36:43) - Michael & Michael as reflection in the helmet.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (36:43) – Michael & Michael as reflection in the helmet.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (37:47) - Leland looking vicious.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (37:47) – Leland looking vicious.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (39:36) - Georgiou spitting Leland in the face.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (39:36) – Georgiou spitting Leland in the face.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (40:27) - Michael and Saru's & Siranna's reflection in the helmet.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (40:27) – Michael and Saru’s & Siranna’s reflection in the helmet.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (41:25) - Una & Admiral Cornwell saying goodbye (forever).

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (41:25) – Una & Admiral Cornwell saying goodbye (forever).

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (41:45) - Klingon D-7 arriving.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (41:45) – Klingon D-7 arriving.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (42:02) - (In Klingon) Destroy those who would harm your Chancellor!

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (42:02) – (In Klingon) Destroy those who would harm your Chancellor!

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (42:24) - Michael and the time crystal's reflection in the helmet.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (42:24) – Michael and the time crystal’s reflection in the helmet.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (42:51) - Michael and Po's device as a reflection in the helmet.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (42:51) – Michael and Po’s device as a reflection in the helmet.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (43:49) - I'll send the sixth signal, like the North Star, that's what this is.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (43:49) – I’ll send the sixth signal, like the North Star, that’s what this is.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:13) - An unequal fight, Leland having short hair and Georgiou's long hair.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (44:13) – An unequal fight, Leland having short hair and Georgiou’s long hair.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:20) - Georgiou & Leland fighting in Engineering.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (44:20) – Georgiou & Leland fighting in Engineering.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:41) - Georgiou locked Leland into the spore cube.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (44:41) – Georgiou locked Leland into the spore cube.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (44:43) - Georgiou locked Leland into the spore cube.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (44:43) – Georgiou locked Leland into the spore cube.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (46:08) - Chris, whatever your path may be, you can handle it.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (46:08) – Chris, whatever your path may be, you can handle it.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (46:42) - The last second of Admiral Cornwell.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (46:42) – The last second of Admiral Cornwell.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (48:00) - I just got you back, I don't want to let go.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (48:00) – I just got you back, I don’t want to let go.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (48:02) - Neither... do I.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (48:02) – Neither… do I.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (50:15) - Leland trying to get out of the spore cube.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (50:15) – Leland trying to get out of the spore cube.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (51:28) - Somebody owes me a beer.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (51:28) – Somebody owes me a beer.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (52:08) - Wings unfolding.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:08) – Wings unfolding.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:24) - The Red Angel flies towards the wormhole.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (52:24) – The Red Angel flies towards the wormhole.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:29) - The U.S.S. Discovery flying towards the wormhole.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (52:29) – The U.S.S. Discovery flying towards the wormhole.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (52:41) - The USS Discovery flying towards the 6th red signal.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (52:41) – The USS Discovery flying towards the 6th red signal.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (53:19) - Goodbye, my friends, my family.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (53:19) – Goodbye, my friends, my family.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (53:54) - Leland screaming.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (53:54) – Leland screaming.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (54:59) - Siranna in a Ba'ul fighter.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (54:59) – Siranna in a Ba’ul fighter.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:10) - Ash thinking of Michael when she flies into the wormhole.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (55:10) – Ash thinking of Michael when she flies into the wormhole.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:25) - Spock watching Burnham and the Discovery go into the wormhole.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (55:25) – Spock watching Burnham and the Discovery go into the wormhole.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:33) - Reno.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (55:33) – Reno.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (55:48) - The U.S.S. Discovery enters the wormhole.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (55:48) – The U.S.S. Discovery enters the wormhole.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:11) - Tilly enters the wormhole.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (56:11) – Tilly enters the wormhole.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:27) - Last look at the U.S.S. Discovery.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2 (56:27) – Last look at the U.S.S. Discovery.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:48) - A damaged U.S.S. Enterprise on its way home.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:48) – A damaged U.S.S. Enterprise on its way home.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:56) - Shuttle flying by the Golden Gate Bridge.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (56:56) – Shuttle flying by the Golden Gate Bridge.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (57:53) - I saw Discovery explode.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (57:53) – I saw Discovery explode.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (58:03) - For the third time, yeah, anything else?

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (58:03) – For the third time, yeah, anything else?

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (58:33) - We would like to remove the 'Acting' from your title.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (58:33) – We would like to remove the ‘Acting’ from your title.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (59:14) - I'm eager to hear your recommendations, Lieutenant.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (59:14) – I’m eager to hear your recommendations, Lieutenant.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (59:25) - These events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (59:25) – These events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:18) - U.S.S. Enterprise in space dock.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:18) – U.S.S. Enterprise in space dock.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:24) - U.S.S. Enterprise in space dock.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:24) – U.S.S. Enterprise in space dock.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:41) - Amanda & Spock.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:00:41) – Amanda & Spock.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:01:14) - Every night, I look to the stars for your signal.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:01:14) – Every night, I look to the stars for your signal.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:14) - Spock to the bridge.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:14) – Spock to the bridge.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:19) - Pike amazed about Spock's appearance.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:19) – Pike amazed about Spock’s appearance.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:42) - It looks like it's in the Beta Quadrant.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:42) – It looks like it’s in the Beta Quadrant.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:51) - The location of the seventh signal 51,000 light-years from our present position.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:51) – The location of the seventh signal 51,000 light-years from our present position.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:55) - I'll run the analytics.

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:02:55) – I’ll run the analytics.

STDP 041 - Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:03:58) - HIT IT!

STDP 041 – Star Trek Discovery S2E14 (1:03:58) – HIT IT!

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