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Some information about this episode
There were two little-known historical figures in this episode, and no, that’s not a reference to Bonnie & Clyde. The two men that I’m talking about are Frank Hamer and Henry Methvin. One of them a good guy, and one of them very, very, bad.
Hamer was born in Texas in 1884, and grew up to become a Texas Ranger. He fought against the KKK, and saved many black men from lynch mobs. Hamer retired in 1932, one week before Miriam “Ma” Ferguson “and her husband” recaptured the governor’s office. She was proved corrupt as she fired all the remaining Rangers and appointed her own men to serve in their place. He held a special commission after his retirement.
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On the flip side, Henry Methvin was quite a degenerate. Bonnie & Clyde happened upon him when they arrived at Eastham prison to break out their pal, Raymond Hamilton. He took the opportunity to escape as well, and when offered the option to join up, he was all in. While Henry was with Bonnie & Clyde, it was perhaps their most deadly crime spree. They stole guns and money, killed state troopers, a police officer, and wounded another, taking him hostage.
The two men are fascinating in their dichotomy. I loved reading about them, and I can’t wait to see who the showrunners will write about next!
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Getting Along Like Gangbusters
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Wyatt & Lucy find a bank mentioned in the papers they bring back from the 1960s, which is their next mission, and when they do, they’re confronted with the infamous criminals – Bonnie & Clyde. While Lucy is a bit starstruck, Wyatt keeps them safe until they can get outside and strike up an alliance with the pair. The foursome escape together while Flynn stands in the street watching them get away.
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Major League Suspect
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Poor Rufus was left behind since he couldn’t go inside the bank. He was helping a young lady to use the “colored” fountain, and he stands, stunned, as the shootout and escape goes down right in front of him. Flynn sees him and points him out to Frank Hamer as a possible accomplice – so he’s taken in to be interrogated.
Flynn mustn’t have done his homework (or read this blog post in his future) because he doesn’t realize that Hamer won’t assume that Rufus is guilty just because he’s black. He paces out in the main room while questioning takes place in a back room of the police precinct.
Once Methvin is brought in, he’s pressured to give information about Bonnie & Clyde since he’s a known associate, where Wesley/Rufus isn’t. He gives in rather easily, and tells the posse about the gang’s hideout. Rufus beats a hasty retreat out the back in order to warn Lucy & Wyatt, and Flynn is left to his own devices.
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A Kiss To Build a Dream On?
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There are actually two kisses in this episode, and one very awkward date. This topic is about all three of those incidents. The episode starts with a “date” between Lucy and the conspicuously last-nameless Noah. I’m not sure awkward adequately describes their meal, and we discuss the interaction during this podcast.
The first kiss is between Rufus and Jiya just before the team boards the lifeboat. I’m glad they’re showing these little moments between the two of them, although there’s a part of me that’s wary… usually when good things happen and we see the results – it means there might be bad things a-comin’.
The other kiss comes later when Wyatt & Lucy are trying to keep up their cover as a couple when Bonnie spots Lucy’s engagement ring. Wyatt tells a story about how he asked her to marry him, which is the actual story about his proposal to Jessica – and at it’s conclusion, he pulls her in for a pretty steamy kiss.
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On May 22
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May 22 is Harvey Milk Day, United States National Maritime Day, and World Goth Day
1807 – A grand jury indicts former Vice President of the United States Aaron Burr on a charge of treason.
1826 – HMS Beagle departs on its first voyage.
1849 – Future U.S. President Abraham Lincoln is issued a patent for an invention to lift boats over obstacles in a river, making him the only U.S. President to ever hold a patent.
1906 – The Wright brothers are granted U.S. patent number 821,393 for their “Flying-Machine“.
1947 – Cold War: In an effort to fight the spread of Communism, the U.S. President Harry S. Truman signs an act into law that will later be called the Truman Doctrine.
1964 – Lyndon B. Johnson launches the Great Society.
1990 – Microsoft releases the Windows 3.0 operating system.
2003 – In Fort Worth, Texas, Annika Sörenstam becomes the first woman to play the PGA Tour in 58 years.
2015 – The Republic of Ireland becomes the first nation in the world to legalize gay marriage in a public referendum.
Notable Births:
1783 – William Sturgeon, English physicist and inventor, invented the electromagnet and electric motor
1813 – Richard Wagner, German composer
1844 – Mary Cassatt, American painter and educator
1859 – Arthur Conan Doyle, British writer
1905 – Bodo von Borries, German physicist and academic, co-invented the electron microscope
1907 – Laurence Olivier, English actor, director, producer
1927 – Michael Constantine, American actor
1930 – Harvey Milk, American lieutenant and politician
1938 – Richard Benjamin, American actor and director
1938 – Susan Strasberg, American actress
1939 – Paul Winfield, American actor (Shaka, When the Walls Fell)
1940 – Michael Sarrazin, Canadian actor
1942 – Ted Kaczynski, American academic and mathematician turned anarchist and serial murderer (Unabomber)
1950 – Bernie Taupin, English singer-songwriter and poet
1959 – Morrissey, English singer-songwriter and performer
1964 – Mark Christopher Lawrence, American actor and producer (Because PINEAPPLE)
1970 – Naomi Campbell, English model
1978 – Ginnifer Goodwin, American actress
1979 – Maggie Q, American actress
1982 – Apolo Ohno, American speed skater
1999 – Camren Bicondova, American actress (Have you seen this podcast?)
Notable Deaths:
337 – Constantine the Great, Roman emperor
1490 – Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent, English administrator, nobleman and magnate
1885 – Victor Hugo, French novelist, poet, and playwright
1939 – Ernst Toller, German playwright and author
1967 – Langston Hughes, American poet, novelist, playwright
1998 – John Derek, American actor, director, and photographer
2008 – Robert Asprin, American soldier and author
2012 – Muzafar Bhutto, Pakistani politician
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One thing I have been contemplating recently about time travel, Butterfly Effects, et al., is the fact that they travel ‘only’ backwards in time to influence the current state of affairs.
This podcast brought up a good point from a fellow listener about creating an anchor point upon departure that ensures a ‘safe-ish’ return to the anchor after the mission. This gave me heart to propose that they will have to make trips into the narrative future (in the show’s future) to twist events in the past. Why? Why!? To solve the issues with the past. Imagine that they travel to the future and locate “The Key” from this episode, then return and take it to the 1934 past and to a place that they know that only they will be able to recover it before Flynn and/or Bonnie&Clyde. On their return from the future, they can declare that they know what their next mission will be – 1934 Arkansas, or Ford’s place in Michigan.
Question? CAN they travel to the future? I don’t see why not, if they have the ‘anchor’. They do it every episode. Every trip to the past is immediately followed by a same episode trip to the future (now). I do not see why they cannot flip it and go to the future first, then the past… ‘Back To The Future’ style – – Marty McFly – “Doc is still alive in the Old West.”
One thing I hope to see is Flynn get a little trickier with his tactics. He has the nuke power source to make multiple trips without returning home to recharge, like Rufus has to do with the Lifeboat. Flynn could go one place, wait 8 hours for the Mason-based team to react, then go to his ‘real’ destination to accomplish his intended mission. By the time the Lifeboat team draws a blank at the first locale, returns home, recharges and gets new orders. Flynn could be done. He could also hop several times, leaving the Lifeboat days behind him… exhausted from failure. Like the deceptive Flea Flicker play in Football – we can call this the ‘Flynn Flicker’ scenario.®
Again, the web content above was ‘peЯfectly’ tight. More so than last week. I absorbed ever word before listening to one second of the podcast, and it made the listen even more informative and educational. It felt like – “Hamer Time… can’t touch Rufus. un, un, uhn, uhnt… duhnt, duhnt… duhnt, duhnt. Hamer Time!”
Thank you DocH! I hope they stay this informative and interesting each week. I love looking all of this information up and passing it along. Something I had all but given up in the last few years was to learn something new every day. If I get nothing else from this experience, it’ll be getting that hunger for knowledge back.
I loved that point about ‘anchors’ as well. Seeing Flynn do more with the flexibility of the mothership would be really interesting. Can we hope that happens?
The picture of the key came from the warehouse raid in episode 4 “Party at Castle Varlar” where they almost caught Flynn and Anthony.
Thank you! Good to see they’re threading the plot through the episodes. I don’t remember seeing it, but I analyze so many shows in a week I’m sure it just got shuffled around in my brain and lost to time. I like that we’re seeing the little things even though we don’t see the big picture yet.
And thanks for your feedback this week!
DocH is incorrect. They cannot travel to the future, because they will already be there, and cannot be in the same time as another themself, or Bad Things Happen™®©.
Right?! But they’ve already bent that rule, so who knows. Bӓd Things Hӓppen™®©℗ have already happened, just not the body part thing that we’ve been expecting.
Where is Anthony anyway. I call major shenanigans on him for being on the 1960s mission. SHENANIGANS I SAY!
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Your logic appears limited and linear. You assume they will be alive in the future. So what… 100 or 200 years from now they will still be alive and the team can’t go to 2116 to recover The Key?
And why does Flynn have Lucy’s journal? Does she and the team die in the Season 2 finale cliffhanger. Technically, in that case, the Team can travel to any timeline after May Ratings Sweeps in 2018. (and recover The Key)
And again we assume that the Mason-based Team is new to the process. After 9 episodes we (WE) are just getting to know the trio. Perhaps this is not their first spin around on the time Ferris Wheel. They seem (seem!) to have just been recruited. Seem (seem!) new to Mason staff… but why has Flynn had Lucy’s journal since the get-go? (A: -whispering- not his first rodeo).
We don’t know how convoluted and tangled this pig-pile was before we started watching. I have the feeling that this vehicle has four wheels; Bruhl, Rittenhouse, Flynn and the Mason-based Team. And guess what? Those wheels are all different sizes and have been spinning at different rates for a few generations. You never know how a vehicle like that will steer or where it will go.
Less linear thinking will improve circulatory imagination and should encourage a higher level of critical logic within your personal paradigm as far as challenging the advanced time paradoxes presented in TIMELESS, or… just sit back and enjoy the popcorn-munching fun. — DocH (drops the mic)
All Apologies. That last paragraph was a little heavy handed in response to a newbie. Namaste. I should have signed it – “SpockH”. (politely picks up the mic)
Yes, if they were to die, then they could go forward beyond their death date, but NO ONE knows the day they’re going to die, so they could very well end up in a timeline where they’re still alive, unless they go more than 100 years in the future to avoid with all great likelihood that they’re still alive, but then how do they know where something is in the future? I say it can’t be done.
Or they could go 500 years into the future. Log on to this, what do we call it?, interweb/net(dot)whatever thing we are doing here – – call up the “Obituary” archives on the BinGle (Bing Google) search engine and find the exact day and time they died.
Then return to their present (or anchor) time, grab a sandwich and a cup of iced-java, then depart for the future again, and arrive one minute after their individual, or, group deaths. Loop Theory vice linear.
Wasn’t sure if you’d get notification, but I made you something below.
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For Doc:
THANKS Karen!. My Xmas gift arrived early this year. It is a little holiday miracle… you know, like really good, authentic homemade tamales. I am glad it downloads into a big poster and is quite easy to read. I think I found my new screensaver for 2017. I feel a little silly. I have been calling him Garcia Flynn the whole time, not Flynn Garcia. oh well – in the words of Eric Cartman – – – SWEEEET!
(the RSS feed updates the # of comments in my feed trough, per episode. that’s my notification)
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Glad you like it. I had to use “Perfume Bottle Fanciers,” since I collect them. It’s my little piece of trivia just for you. (And now everyone else.)