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Time to talk about the swingin’ town of Las Vegas, and that coo-coo ring-a-ding chick who had JFK in the bag. Let’s hit it and get to first base with the convo man!
He needs to put his affairs in order
Speaking of JFK, he wasn’t the focus of the episode, but his affair with Judith Campbell was. Flynn used pictures taken of the two of them as blackmail material in order to get onto the military base nearby. Judith was un-kidnapped (coined by Doug) by our team, but ultimately, she doesn’t trust Wyatt, and escapes to go with Flynn, the known quantity. It ends up that she’s dismayed when she finds out they’re stealing an atom bomb core, but by then it’s too late. Good thing Flynn and his henchmen didn’t have nefarious plans for her – just plans to get the destructive force.
Somebody set up us the bomb
Flynn & co. grabbed the “Christy Pit” and smartly buried it in the desert. We later see them in the present-day digging it back up. Whatever plans they have for it, it’s in another time – not the 60s.
Must’ve gotten his wires crossed
Wyatt, imitating Back to the Future, tries to send his late wife a Western Union telegram in 2012. This is a source of frustration for me and a few members of our audience, since WU stopped sending telegrams several years earlier. PLOT HOLE! ugh. It doesn’t work, which is sad, but I’m sure we’ll hear more about why in the next episode.
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From hero to zero
We finally see Anthony Bruhl again, played by Matt Frewer. He’s apparently (even though they’ve never really alluded to it) Rufus’ mentor. When Rufus finds him at the bar – unsupervised, he seems unconcered with trying to escape. Rufus is torn about this revelation, not knowing how to take this news. Later when the team have a chance to stop Flynn by shooting Bruhl, he stops Wyatt from doing so, and Wyatt covers when they get back to headquarters.
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Them’s the breaks
Last week we met Lucy’s fiancé, and we learned a little more about him this week. However, she called things off with him, although he was super cool about it. But seriously Lucy, maybe get to know him? This may be your reality, and you obviously saw something in him… plus, HOT. /rawr

On Sept 21:
1897 – The “Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus” editorial is published in the New York Sun.
1937 – J. R. R. Tolkien’s The Hobbit is published.
1942 – The Boeing B-29 Superfortress makes its maiden flight.
1961 – Maiden flight of the Boeing CH-47 Chinook transportation helicopter.
1981 – Sandra Day O’Connor is unanimously approved by the U.S. Senate as the first female Supreme Court justice.
Notable Births:
1866 – H. G. Wells, English novelist, historian, and critic
1872 – Henry Tingle Wilde, English chief officer on the RMS Titanic
1902 – Allen Lane, English publisher, founded Penguin Books
1903 – Preston Tucker, American engineer and businessman, designed the Tucker Sedan
1912 – Chuck Jones, American animator, producer, and screenwriter
1931 – Larry Hagman, American actor, director, and producer
1934 – Leonard Cohen, Canadian singer-songwriter and poet
1935 – Henry Gibson, American actor
1945 – Jerry Bruckheimer, American film and television producer
1947 – Stephen King, American author and screenwriter
1950 – Bill Murray, American actor, comedian, producer, and screenwriter
1959 – Dave Coulier, American actor, comedian, producer, and screenwriter
1968 – Ricki Lake, American actress, producer, and talk show host
1983 – Joseph Mazzello, American actor, director, producer, and screenwriter
Notable Deaths:
19 BC – Virgil, Roman poet
1974 – Walter Brennan, American actor
1998 – Florence Griffith Joyner, American sprinter
2007 – Alice Ghostley, American actress
Next week on Timeless:
THE TEAM CHASES FLYNN THROUGH NAZI GERMANY IN THE MIDST OF WORLD WAR TWO.
Lucy (Abigail Spencer), Wyatt (Matt Lanter), and Rufus (Malcolm Barrett) are shocked when they’re told the mothership has landed in Nazi Germany, but time is short, and they’re the only ones equipped to kill Flynn (Goran Višnjic) and end his psychotic crusade. Now, in hot pursuit of a genius with sinister associations, the team weighs the consequences of Flynn’s destruction, meets the man behind one of literature’s most popular figures, and endures a very uncomfortable… party.
Also starring Paterson Joseph, Sakina Jaffrey and Claudia Doumit. Guest starring Sean Maguire, Matt Frewer and Chad Rook.
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Send us your feedback! On the Golden Spiral Media feedback page, let us know you thoughts, theories, predictions, and ruminations. We want to hear from you!
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You guys seem to have missed so much. Excessive hand waving on your part.
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Start of the show they are trying to track Flynn and we were just about to learn how they did and the tracker gal gets cut off.
Guys, I know where they are.
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(HER:) “Um, uh, okay, so it turns out that the ‘negative-mass kinetic energy’ given off by the Mothership actually leaves behind ‘a trace of’…”
They’re in Nevada. Somewhere in this 50-mile radius.
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A trace of what??? WHAT!?
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Also the nuke blast 5 miles away from Vegas (BS alert).
It was 60+ miles away behind 2 mountain ranges at “Pahute Mesa”, aka Area 50. Area 51/Groom Lake is just 15 miles ESE. I’ve been to both places. You could sit at the pool in Vegas and see the mushroom cloud about 30 seconds after the detonation. They’d announce the blast on the radio and folks would turn and crane to see the cloud, however, the sound, a muffled ‘whump’ could not be heard for about 10 minutes, if at all. sidenote: I went to the Sands on my 21st B-day, just before Doug turned 20.
Stupidity alert. Flynn. In Black Commando Uniform. With Black Turtleneck. Hiding In Plain Sight. Poolside In Hot Vegas Noon Sun. Sporting Spy Camera. Not Seen Or Suspected. Please! And your premise about 1 hour photo development. Please! Millions of dollars to fund his secret mission and you don’t think he won’t walk into a private studio and say, “hey – photo guy. Here is a 100 bucks develop these for me right now.” Photographer response 30 minutes later – – “I’d have done it for $40”
Kripke / Supernatural style humor. The funniest line was right after the ‘1962 invisible’ joke. Lucy takes objection with the short ‘cigarette girl’ outfit.
runtime 09m:56s “Really? You couldn’t have found me a thong?”
(classic Dean and Sam Winchester banter from SuperNat)
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The worst trope (common or overused theme or device) this ep was the bungling (read horny) General and the whatevuh Corporal at the gate… sure… what the heck drive… right onto this Class A Security Facility at the height of the Cold War and do what you will without an escort. Please! There is your hand-wave.
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The Cold War Super Powers were really getting into advanced nuke ‘pits’ by the late 50’s, after Bikini Atoll and the Marshalls, that had very low rad levels and were no where near lethal. They combined stable recipes (6 of those X-protons and 7 Y-electrons with a pinch of Z-neutrons) that had massive yields based on refined engineering of containment chambers and precision detonation delivery. The standard detonator tends to be the highly deadly radiation source in zorching your gizzards, not necessarily the Gen-5 and higher pits. Once the pit is detonated, then it becomes the floater in the toilet, umm… I mean the atmosphere we breathe. (check Wiki ‘Tsar Bomba’ for good a 4-1-1 on yield, etc….)
I also think the Western Union hating has already been settled. Correct. They don’t accept, or hand deliver telegrams anymore. My understanding is that they have a small department in their customer service section that does attempt to complete any ‘special request’ delivery that was requested and paid for. They took the money and are now using email, USPS mail and the good old fashion phone call (land-line preferred!) to satisfy the contracted service on, or about, the date request. So no… no kid on a bike with puberty voice at your door. Just a typical modern message delivered .
The request for viewer input to the podcast seems ill-mannered too. Let’s see. Last time slot on Monday… straight to bed after… up and at’tum to work… commute home and what? I have to run straight to my PC to get my Remaking History input submitted in the next 30 minutes, or else? That is a tight turn. And not possible for us West Coast & flyover-states out here. And the Same Day +3 and +7 crowd are automatically excluded. WTF? (What The Fudge?)
I worry about you two most of all. Droopy Dawg and Debbie Downer – incarnate! This was actually the best ep so far. The first two eps were the foundation of the pyramid of lies and deceit that awaits us. They established paradigms and parameters that we fully expect it to dwell within, then challenge, then defy. This ep (#3) actually started flipping layers of the foundation episodes back on themselves… like good puff pastry. You two reviewed it like it was Ep #103, not #03. And I like when they go to the more obscure history events, not the iconic events.
I am not saying you should be Timeless Cheerleaders, just let the game unfold, sip their ‘Kool-Aid’, no need to gulp it – this brand new show with great potential is trying to find its voice, vision and message. Right now, if asked by someone (I know two) who wants to binge watch the first 8 episodes on DVR over Thanksgiving… “Should I catch the shows first, or the podcasts first?” I would say forget the podcasts. Just go enjoy the shows first. (silently thinking to myself they might not watch the shows after hearing the downbeat ear candy here).
Cheers — DocH
As to the feedback turnaround, that’s entirely on me. I am not able to record Wednesday night at all, so if we record Thursday, it would be a Friday noon release at the earliest. In time perhaps for weekend listening, but we’re trying to keep the schedule so that some folks can listen during commute time. I know that can make it difficult, but I thought that the notes we got in email and on the Facebook page for the first two eps portended good volume.
Which is why I built in a segment for old feedback before we get into the new ep discussion.
As to the rest, thanks for setting us straight on some of the particulars. I want to address these in the show. Generally, I am the one saying “Give the new show time to establish itself”, and I agree that we might be a bit jaded sometimes. In my mind, however, a 7 out of 10 is still a good episode. I need room in my ratings for various degrees of “great”, and I try to avoid the “everything’s an 8 – 10” syndrome, because it cheapens the 10s, and doesn’t really give a good idea of what I though if all I have are 3 numbers to choose from. (As it is, I think I need to rate things a bit lower in general so I have actual granularity. But we’ll see about that.)
Thanks, Doc, and keep holding our feet to the fire.