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[sc:astop]Villains continue to be unveiled this week as the identity of Cayden James is made known, as well as his target: Felicity Smoak. Team Arrow has to tackle the new kind of threat he and Helix bring, with the return of other villains and potential allies – and Oliver attempts to support his team without being in the field, in a role-reversal that proves to be a challenge as the villains pile up this episode.
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Let me start by saying for Flash – https://mobile.twitter.com/JulianaHarkavy/status/925110165745086465/photo/1 ; everyone else can enjoy as well. 🙂
Now, on to the podcast discussion!
I agree Katie looked good in the opening, but I disagree she looks better brunette!
I know I’m nitpicking but I laughed at the clearly CGI arrow in the Cry blast scene; that said that scene was awesome! I’m loving all the ways they’re using the Canary Cry this season, it’s like Dinah’s and Laurel’s version of the arrow tips – you have an entire arsenal in one thing! I definitely hope we see the Cries being used in more ways this season along with the basic format because you have to have it for nostalgic reasons and because it’s the easiest move to pull off in a hurry. 🙂
The Nyssa scheduling topic…it’s not “Arrow” strictly but I have to take a moment to address this; I get Katrina is busy, I’m glad she’s working, but it really makes me question the LEGENDS group when even though she’s busy she still shows up at least once a year it seems on “Arrow” so why can’t that take that scheduled appearance and let her use it for LEGENDS? The shows film pretty close together and even if they’re months apart things are filmed out of order all the time so why not film something with Katrina while you can get it and air it in a spot later? Even if you can’t get Katrina there’s nothing stopping you from using the Nyssa name so it’s just very frustrating to me that LEGENDS seems to act like Nyssa doesn’t exist beyond that one quick scene where Sara had to leave her; I kind of get her doing it but that doesn’t stop Sara from going back post that date to check on her. I know the team isn’t suppose to look into their futures so maybe that’s part of why they haven’t mentioned Nyssa but still it doesn’t stop Sara from mentioning her herself when someone talks about loves or ninjas which Mick loves to talk about, yes Sara is a ninja too but she also knows ninjas thus giving her multiple stories; I use to not get people questioning Sara’s love for Nyssa but sadly now I do. It’s just so frustrating! If LOT doesn’t want her through give us more on “Arrow” because she’s a fun character.
Essay over, back to the doctorate! 🙂
Isn’t the Martin/Dinah ship name just “The Future Mr. Dinah Drake”? Ha. I can’t really think of anything clever, I don’t know enough about birds to make a play on Martin and Canary, but I’d love to hear some names others come up with! I totally picture Martin watching “Arrow” with his chin in his hands, his feet in the air behind him, and sighing contently with a smile on his face during Dinah scenes where in his mind she may or may not have little Disney birds flying around her singing. 🙂
I embrace the blog posts as they’re another way to show you’re being listened to and they’re like my version of a Facebook discussion since I don’t Facebook. 🙂
Ooh, what if we had a season of mini bad guys come together at the end to be a big bad group thus the big bad the team has to fight? That could be cool. Sort of like Suicide Squad but less humorous.
It might just be me, but I hope Black Siren turns on Cayden and we see her going solo for most of the rest of the season because honestly to me she doesn’t really fit long term with them. I get it if she’s helping him because he saved her, clearly they know each other pre-island as she said “I thought you’d never show up” if I remember correctly, (maybe he helped break her out of prison the first time last season) but beyond that helping Cayden destroy things feels like something she’d do to keep away boredom rather than their missions aligning. I’m not sure if there’s enough episodes left for her to go solo and have her plot do all it wants this season but I just don’t get why she’s with this group currently. Also no killing Siren – she’s too much fun to write off any time soon!
Again I have to ask if Oliver is outted as Arrow where does that leave everyone? If lawyers can prove Dinah is Black Canary can they essentially get her removed from the police force because she’s a liability given any case she touches could be deemed illegally obtained information as the team doesn’t exactly operate legally when it comes to suspects and how would that affect her? Even if she stopped being Black Canary that taint will always be there that people could use to get charges tossed. Would working with the team hurt Renee’s chances of getting Zoe back; would he quit if that was a possibility? Being with Arrow and everyone knowing it’s Oliver puts even bigger targets on he, Felicity, and William as more bad guys will know they can use them to get to him. And of course you have the always lingering card of people coming to Oliver asking why didn’t he do more if someone they care about gets hurt/why did break my property catching the bad guy? So many people would try to sue Oliver if they knew he was Arrow just for a money grab claiming he destroyed something or they got hurt in a fight involving Arrow chasing a bad guy, some might be legitimate but others might not. I get it’s arguably easier to say he’s Arrow right now but that should open up issues for everyone involved and if the show glossed over them I find that really disappointing because it’s great organic drama versus saying everyone just lets Oliver be and nothing changed even though this huge thing happened; if Oliver said he was stepping down from being the mayor I get a comment here or there and that’s it but this is a big reveal so I’d hope they’d give it that.
Well played Cammie with the Kayne mention.
I’m surprised Palmer Tech hasn’t tried to repo Felicity’s chip yet; I wonder if they’ll block any replicas of it saying that’s a PT invention as Curtis used their resources to create it on PT time? I miss the plot of Felicity dealing with chip issues – it ended too soon. Yes she’s still paralyzed if it goes down but I’d just love to see her talk more about it, even if she’s discussing upgrades with Curtis such as making the battery last longer – I assume it runs off one even if it’s as small as a watch battery because if not how is it being powered, because this is a story not touched on much in shows much less superhero shows. Again it’d be interesting to see someone hack the chip and see if they can control Felicity with it, maybe Cayden makes her not be able to finish typing a line so he can win in a face off and something happens because depending on where the chip is even though it’s her lower half paralyzed he could bounce to upper part nerves and effect her; maybe he makes her shoot someone to stop them? True he’d have to know about the chip but if he did his research on her as he claims he would probably know about it. If Black Siren learns of it she could use her Cry to smash it and take her down – to which then Felicity could talk to Curtis about a stronger shell for the piece…it’s a win-win!
I enjoyed Felicity getting a centric episode but I have to say Helix didn’t exactly get me pumped; I didn’t hate the return but it did feel like it slowed down pacing for the season a bit given so far everything has been about Arrow and Watson on him. Overall it was really good but in the moment it did feel like the car slowed down if you will, not much but the brakes got touched.
WOAH, WOAH, WOAH Cammie you take it back right now, Nyssa is not a villain she’s an anti-hero! 🙂
What Flash you wouldn’t be Mr. Dinah Drake if you could be on the show?!
Bad Cammie, you go watch “Person Of Interest” right now! It’s really good, some of the best continuity on a series I’ve ever seen. The writing overall is very good but the continuity is amazing, something in S1 might seem unimportant or written off but then in S3 it’s back in a big way; it’s a definite recommend for anyone who hasn’t seen it yet. It’s bingeable now as well for that bonus given the series is over and on DVD.
What if Watson somehow finds out it was Felicity in the computer bank and uses her going to jail to make Oliver out himself?! Think using a smaller fish to catch a bigger one.
A good podcast once more.
Hey guys,
Loving the podcast! Just wanted to point out that Cammie was not imagining things last week when she talked about Dinah and Diggle’s chemistry. There have been multiple interviews with the cast and showrunners recently in which they’ve been asked about the obvious sexy eyes they’re throwing at each other. (Luckily, David Ramsey says there’s nothing romantic currently planned). But it’s definitely being noticed by enough people that they have to address it in interviews!
Here are just a couple:
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2017/11/02/arrow-why-diggle-would-want-to-be-the-green-arrow
http://tvline.com/2017/10/19/arrow-season-6-preview-juliana-harkavy-dinah-diggle/