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The Dark Knight takes us into the Nolan Era of Batman.  What a change from the Burton Era.  In this Gotham Extra we compare Heath Ledger’s Joker with Cameron Monaghan’s version.  We also compare the city of Gotham in both.  Come along for the fun!

The Dark Knight:

The Dark Knight catches Bruce/Batman (Christian Bale) in the middle of his career.  He has been forced to choose his career over love with Rachel (Maggie Gyllenhaal).  Wayne Manor is still being rebuilt, so Bruce is living out of a penthouse in town and Batman out of a underground lair at the docks. Batman is working with Jim Gordon (Gary Oldman) to track down the Mob’s money.  Up and coming DA Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart) is making a name for himself.  He has the love of Rachel and is becoming Gotham’s white knight standing up to the Mob and making a stand.  Bruce looks at Harvey as his way of escape.  Harvey can do things in the light Batman cannot.  He throws his weight behind Dent and Gordon’s work.  But this is Gotham and Gotham needs Batman.

The Joker (Heath Ledger) has come on the scene and is showing the Mob they need him to deal with The Batman.  This Joker is an agent of chaos.  He seems bent on tearing down structure and unleashing chaos on the world.  He is calls Batman out forcing him to have him reveal himself to prevent deaths.  He is hell bent on un-caging the animal within each person and seeing what happens next. It is an interesting comparison with Gotham’s Joker (Cameron Monaghan).  He too wants chaos but at this point he is set to be the sole agent rather than setting others free to do it.  Ledger’s Joker realizes that he needs Batman to be complete and vice versa.  Gotham has Gordon (Ben McKenzie) and Bruce (David Mazouz) but no true foil to the Joker.  The Dark Knight has a Joker who helps create Two-Face, forces the cops to fight dirty, and forces Batman to step over the line.

Alfred (Michael Caine) tries to reason with Bruce.  He says he is fighting a man he doesn’t understand and a man who wants to watch the world burn.  But Bruce won’t or can’t hear it.  This version of Alfred is a whole lot closer to Gotham’s (Sean Pertwee) version of Alfred.  He has advice and to offer.  His days of fighting along side Bruce are gone but, is still bold in offering advice and help.  Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman) is also around to help Bruce in the board room and Batman with tech. I can really see Gotham’s Fox (Chris Chalk) growing into The Dark Knight’s Fox.

In the end, Bruce is forced by Joker & Two-Face to go further than he wanted.  The Joker succeeds in taking Batman to a new level and causing him to cross lines.  To quote Jim Gordon, Batman has now become:

“…the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we’ll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he’s not our hero. He’s a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.”


Closing Thoughts:

This movie was much more solid to discuss and provided us a lot of comparisons with the TV series.  The city seems much lighter and more up to date than our Gotham.  The gothic touches seem to have gone away.  Looking at the characters in this movie they seem to be a logical progression from the ones we see in Gotham.  It was a fun and in depth discussion. We are grateful for the feedback we got from you the Undercover Agents.  Our discussions are so much more rich because of your voice. Thank you!


Gotham Undercover Extras:

Gotham may be off the air in February, March and most of April. But Gotham Undercover is not going to leave you Gotham-less. Fellow Undercover Agent Phenix made a suggestion and we liked it. So during the break you will get and get to participate in 3 Gotham Undercover Extras. We will take a look at three Batman related films and discuss how they may tie into Gotham. We’ll discuss the characters and more. But we need you to help and make this a full discussion. Karen (Scarlet Cougar), John (the Substitute), and Geoff (xforce11) will do a round table discussion, but we need your help! Watch the movies along with us, send in your feedback (audio or written), and be a part of the discussion.

Here is the schedule:
Gotham Extra 3: Flashpoint: Paradox, to discuss the animated movies. Feedback deadline is March 16th at 6pm.
Watch it free on CW Seed, click here.

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