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[sc:astop]Cammien Ray and Martin the Flash review the close of the Arrow world in this series finale. With tons of returns, tons of goodbyes, and tons of feedback from listeners, you may need not one but two bottles of wine for this one. Thank you experiencing these stories with us.
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I’m a little surprised you had this out this week as I figured you’d take some emotional time given it is the final.
How does “Green Arrow & The Canaries” not have a season one pick up yet as much as fans want ARROW to continue in a form but Supermen does and people are just as mixed on his possible show as they might be it?
YES SO MUCH Stormy to your point about not dismissing people just because they don’t wear suits! Far too often I see in fandoms the non suited or non powered characters be written off as strong or helpful because they aren’t as involved in the actions scenes and even if they are they’re sometimes still seen as not as good and that’s just wrong; you need your medic characters arguably more than the heroes because without the medic the hero can’t do their job. Someone has to make the suits in other cases and do the research while the others are fighting because knowing enemy weaknesses is a plus. I definitely wish people wouldn’t look down on “support characters” like they do at times! I just loved this comment portion! 🙂
Oh how I wish “Arrow” could embrace anti characters aka gray ones but they don’t. 🙁 Even when you have gray characters they tend to call them good guys or bad guys in most characters eyes but they never really play with them like they could, Black Siren, which is a shame. Anti heroes/anti villains are not a bad thing creators!
I like sassy Siren. 🙂
If you go by real Canary Cry there’s only one in Dinah Drake, because Black Siren is not a Canary despite how much they force that on her, but including tech Crys there’s also Sara and Laurel so 3. Sara always felt like her own person to me just wearing a Black Canary costume so while she was the first I personally don’t see Sara as a true Black Canary if that makes sense? Laurel is the overall comic version of the character but they never used her enough in either side of her life to feel like she was a standout – she was Black Canary in name but not really appearance which again is not her fault. Dinah Drake however had the cannon Cry, she had the attitude to care about Oliver but still call him out, she was used well for a while both in and out of the suit so for me she’s my Black Canary.
Huntress is not a villain Cammie she’s an anti hero! 🙂
Sorry Flash, I think Nyssa would rather be with Black Siren than you; you can do milkshakes as friends but that’s it. Ha. Ooh speaking of, if they did Nyssa/Laurel 3.0 that would play to some fans who have shipped Laurel 1.0 and Nyssa so that would make for an interesting nod if they went there in the spinoff. I feel this could work because while you could argue Nyssa wouldn’t go there because it’s Sara’s sister’s image (Laurel 3.0 is not Laurel 1.0!) and she doesn’t do that Nyssa could be used to say “You may look like Laurel but you are not Laurel” so it’s ok; we get that nod to the fact Black Siren isn’t Black Canary and some Siren/lady time which again she is so primed for and Nyssa screen time – there’s not a lot of downside there! 🙂
#TeamCammie’sRealityForNyssa! 😀
A Nyssa and Mia moment would have been cool! Hopefully the spinoff can score Katrina for some moments between them in the future!
Lol to Cammie getting her Renee shots in. 🙂
I will say the fights were good in this episode which is something they haven’t always been able to do; for me “Arrow” has always had on the whole the weakest fight scenes of the comic book shows but here they definitely put their best foot forward so that was nice to have as the last image of their action beats.
Will there be a Hawkgirl tease with John if he’s on “Green Lantern” given they are a pretty popular pairing in the cartoons? I don’t want him breaking up with Lyla but I do want to see Hawkgirl done again without the Connor Hol drama!
I could see Thea guest staring on the spin off but not being a regular or recurring because Willa is off doing other things.
It was Rene who said “That’s because your arms are the size of tree trunks.” in regards to Diggle on the ladder. 🙂
I think Ava would be nervous meeting Nyssa because of her impact on Sara’s life so we’d see that talking to her at first but then they would become friends because they can all be adults overall about things; I could see Ava and Nyssa then bonding over things Sara does and it kind of turning on Sara for humor moments where she’s all “I don’t do that” but they reply “Yes you do”. It would be a cute moment they could do if LEGENDS ever had Katrina on set but sadly they fear her presence I guess because again they seem to go out of their way to involve Nyssa in Sara’s history. 🙁
LOL LOL LOL to Cammie’s “I liked Ragman, I trusted him; how dare that line come out of his mouth!”. I had to pause the podcast myself here because I was laughing so hard! Salty Cammie coming out on a high note for “Arrow”. 🙂
David could be Green Lantern for CW while someone is Hal Jordan for HBO if they wanted to do more with John as GL. I could see this just being their nod though to that plot unless he’s a guest star in costume next big crossover.
I agree with Geoff, on the whole the TV universe has been better than the movies!
It’s a fair question to ask Flash in regards to does an Olicity return cheapen the ending; I would say it depends on when they return. If they return 5 years down the line then maybe yes because I can see people asking why couldn’t they, at least Emily, have just been in shows on then such as the spin off; if they do like a Tom Wellings deal where they show up a decade later to star or recur on a show like 90s Flash then I think that would work because of the time not seeing the characters.
Here’s a question about the “new timeline”, do you think Olicity got married sooner? If Oliver knows what’s coming in order to change some things then what if he changed that so they could be married by season 4 for sure instead of officially by season 5 because he wanted to be with Felicity longer instead of wasting so much time? Did he come clean about William this time around instead of keeping things from her in season four? Samantha wasn’t there but did Oliver save her so they all co-parent? Is that going to change the William we see in the spin off now any?! As others have said – SO MANY QUESTIONS NOW! 🙂
“I don’t think I could have rolled my eyes any harder” – same Stormy in regards to Quentin being dumb about Siren!!!
“Barry erased baby Sara, but uncle Oliver brought her back!” – AWE!!!